It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by truthseeker816
GENETICS DON'T HAVE # TO DO WITH ANYTHING BUT PERSONAL FEATURES, I AGREE I'M TIRED OF HEARING THAT BS ALSO DIS YOU HEAR HOW THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THEY POSSIBLY WILL BE ABLE TO PICK OUT CRIMINALS BY THEIR GENES! THIS IS MADNESS! SAYING THAT BEING A CRIMINAL IS NOW IN YOUR GENES, WHAT THE HELL WILL THEY THINK OF NEXT? WHEN IS THIS MEDIA TAKE OVER OF AMERICA GOING TO END? HAS ANY ONE SEEN MTV LATELY THE SHOWS THEY HAVE ON ARE RIDICULUS! A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THE DUMBING DOWN OF AMERICA. YOU NEED ABSOLUTLY NO ACTING OR MUSICAL TALENT TO BE ON THAT CHANNEL. THIS WHOLE GENES CRAP IS EXACTLY THAT CRAP, i GUESS 65 PERCENT OF AMERICA HAS THIS OBESITY GENE PROBLEM, DO THEY HAVE A GENE FOR CROOKED POLITICANS!
Originally posted by firegoggles
Actually this is all wrong. In very recent test we find that simply are belief system determines the outcome of what genes are activated. The opposite
of what science is telling us.
Originally posted by Rasobasi420
Am I the only one who thinks that this topic is ridiculous?
Yes, I can blame my genes if I develop diabetes.
Yes, I can blame my genes if I have a predisposition for alcoholism.
Yes, I can blame my genes if I develop breast cancer.
Yes I can blame my genes for being dyslexic.
Other things, like mental disorders, aren't controllable by simple will and faith. Try telling someone who has severe depression that they should just think happy thoughts, or someone with schizophrenia that he can "concentrate real hard" and fix his neurochemical imbalances. Good luck with that.
Originally posted by redmotion
Sorry, but I'm afraid that "why aren't people in concentration camps fat" isn't really an arguement that supports the notion that genetics haven't a part to play in obesity.
Everyone in the camps has no access or very little access to food. Therefore regardless of whether you are genetically predisposed to become obese or not is irrelevant, you will starve, you're body will consume your fat and muscle to try to stay alive. People don't grow fat without food! Where did you ever get that from?!
The genes likely to influence the "onset of obesity" are likely to be concerned with something else such as the control of appetite or how their body deals with the elements in the food that might make them fat or store fat around their bodies. So its not actually an obesity gene.
I eat s**t and don't exercise (apart from brisk walks to and from work in the week) but I'm not fat (slight beer belly but still skinny). My bro-in-law is overweight and so is most of his family. They have BIG appetites.
But you can't actually blame people for having big appetites just because you don't. Appetite is probably genetic in much the same way as some people have food allergies. Different types of food may effect the triggers that say to your brain "you are full" differently. Meat might fill you up faster than vegetables (does for me). Perhaps some people have enlarged stomachs or their appetite suppression mechanisms are 'faulty' or require more food or certain types of food to be triggered.
There is very little real research regarding this issue. Decent research at least. The irony is that half the people sneering the "stop eating and exercise" mantra are unlikely to be practising what they preach either.
Originally posted by Skyfloating
I dont think the topic is ridiculous. I think its dangerous. Go pick up any given womens magazine and check out all the articles beginning with "science has found out..." and concluding with "you dont have a choice".
Yes, I can blame my genes if I develop diabetes.
Yes, I can blame my genes if I have a predisposition for alcoholism.
Yes, I can blame my genes if I develop breast cancer.
Yes I can blame my genes for being dyslexic.
Are you sure about these statements? My grandma had diabetes. After spending her entire life bitching about food.
www.diabetes.org...
What leads to diabetes?
Type 1 and type 2 diabetes have different causes. Yet two factors are important in both. First, you must inherit a predisposition to the disease. Second, something in your environment must trigger diabetes.
Genes alone are not enough. One proof of this is identical twins. Identical twins have identical genes. Yet when one twin has type 1 diabetes, the other gets the disease at most only half the time. When one twin has type 2 diabetes, the other's risk is at most 3 in 4.
And dyslexia....dyslexia...dyslexia...there are case studies that point to emotional/social issues being the cause, you know?
Re: Mental Disorders
Nobody is suggesting stuff like that in the extreme cases you are pointing out.
No need to use the most extreme cases (schizophrenia) as case examples.
We need to find out where exactly to draw the line between free will and genetics. Obviously we draw it at entirely different places.