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Actually, the F-15's had the most current radar, but the Indian pilots got the shot off first because of their missle. That's the need for the F-22.
Originally posted by Dima
yo Disturbed Dude, just, give me a link that states that they had to "light" up the skys just to shoot it down, if i'm not mistaken wasn't the F-117 shot down by an SA-3 or SA-6 and it was tracked by radar, there were multiple bullet holes, which were caused by a 23mm anti-aircraft gun, yet there was also a large amount of damage that was created by a SAM system www.aeronautics.ru...
here's a link, its the second large paragraph
the SA-3 was commissioned in 1961
www.fas.org...
and serial production of the SA-6 started in 1968 or 1967 and ended in 1983 or 1985 www.fas.org...
i know russiqa doesn't have an F-22 to test against, but they still have RAM and coat paintings, and that downed F-117 to test it on, they are a little back in american ways of stealth, but, it won't make much of a difference because russia's future T-50 has the same basic shape of the F-22, look at the third picture and is said to employ stealth technology in the form of RAM and paint coatings, but it mgiht be equipeed with plasma stealth technology www.rfforces.com...
the F-22 can take out 5 F-15's, that doesn't seem reasonable, because, FIVE F-15's can use their radars to triangulate the position of the F-22 to give a braod range of attack, and different methods of deception, like one goes low, one goes high, the other goes tot eh left and the other goes to the right, wtih one in the centre, i thik an F-15 would die to an F-22, but i don't think an F-22 can beat more than 3 or 4 F-15's, 5, mmmmmmmm, probably not, YES, Zerg strategy(Zerg are sick, but i prefer the Protoss)
the way u described the F-22, i agree with you, it has extremely advanced avionics suite, with a computing power equivalent to two Crey supercomputers, it has really advanced radar(is it passive?)APG-77 or something, long range, definitely because of its supercruise ability, accurate missiles, yes, but russia has better missiles, as Lazpla stated, and stealth, for which there are many counters to
the only thing i don't understand is that u said it can supercruise to move out of the way, i don't understand, Mach 1.5 is very slow for modern aircraft, the F-22 has good maneuverability, maybe thats what you were trying to point out
oh Laxpla, in my previous post with tons of links, i think like 5-7 links, read some of those, or all of them if u want to know the S-400 really well, and it states that it was designed to counter stealth technology, and a bunch of the other stuff, including the missiles used, the range, etc.
can someone give me a link on the F-15 excercise, i want to read one
thanx
Originally posted by Dima
impressed, lol thanks, never heard that one before, i'll keep trying to find it, but here's a site that gives a lot of info on future russian and american aircraft projects
paralay.narod.ru...
and this specific part of thte site gives some info, actually a lot on the T-50 which IS the Sukhoi PAK-FA, they have given it a designtaion now, but it might change in the future, exp. T-10, now its Su-27, so it will probably be disgnated by an Su-??
paralay.narod.ru...
look at the first pic on the left at the top, the T-50 looks very similar to the F-22 except the nose is more the shape of the Su-32/34, the tail has a larger surface area, and the wings are swept back slightly more, which provides greater maneuverability, it doesn't have canards, but it does have a leading edge that trails before the wing, it does the same as canards, but maybe to a greater extent, because it is larger, it lessens the chances of the aircraft getting into a stall and makes it more stable, it seems longer and thinner than the F-22, but then again that can be contributed to the distance of the aircraft compared to the F-22..............these "claims" mgiht be wrong, because its justba picture, but it gives us a rough overview on the actual aircraft that is to have a test flight in 2005, or 2007, forgot which year
hope you can read russian
Originally posted by Dima
disturbed deliverer, u're foolsih, of course they've tested the SAM system, then they wouldn't start purchasing them next year if it wasn't tested, the S-300 tracked an F-117 in Yugoslavia , and the S-300 is older than the F-117, it wasn't even created to counter stealth, yet it still did!
about the F-22, i heard that it had the RCS of a tricycle from someone here at ATS, the S-400 has detecting stealth in mind
here are some links on the S-400 and it has been tested
www.cndyorks.gn.apc.org...
www.wonderland.org.nz...
the second one nearly to the end gives some info no the S-400 and the S-400 mentions that the SAM can lock onto targets without giving a signal
www.fas.org...
www.astronautix.com...
www.missilethreat.com...
warfare.ru...
the russians are also devloping a new type of radar that scans the desnity of the air, if the density is higher than the expected density of the air, then they immediately know to scramble their interceptors
and since they first developed the passive array radar, they have a lead in that technology
Originally posted by Dima
Originally posted by Dima
disturbed deliverer, u're foolsih, of course they've tested the SAM system, then they wouldn't start purchasing them next year if it wasn't tested, the S-300 tracked an F-117 in Yugoslavia , and the S-300 is older than the F-117, it wasn't even created to counter stealth, yet it still did!
about the F-22, i heard that it had the RCS of a tricycle from someone here at ATS, the S-400 has detecting stealth in mind
here are some links on the S-400 and it has been tested
www.cndyorks.gn.apc.org...
www.wonderland.org.nz...
the second one nearly to the end gives some info no the S-400 and the S-400 mentions that the SAM can lock onto targets without giving a signal
www.fas.org...
www.astronautix.com...
www.missilethreat.com...
warfare.ru...
the russians are also devloping a new type of radar that scans the desnity of the air, if the density is higher than the expected density of the air, then they immediately know to scramble their interceptors
and since they first developed the passive array radar, they have a lead in that technology
here Laxpla, here are the links, look at these, to lazy to dig up more, this was on just one page of google search for "radar of S-400"
Originally posted by Dima
yo Ronii, the pics don't work, can u give me the original site or try them again, thanx
Originally posted by Disturbed Deliverer
Our economy grows at the highest pace of any developed nation. We have low unemployment. We have a GDP twice the size of the nearest competition, and they have an economy mulitple times the size of our own.
The American economy is just fine.