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Is reporting ufos illegal? Why The Media Blackout?

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posted on May, 13 2008 @ 01:12 PM
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It means once the aliens finish their anal probing, the US reserves the right to their fair share of probing your anal as well.




posted on May, 13 2008 @ 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
This thread has been derailed from the beginning.

Mods please close or delete it so I can start a new topic!


What reporting type are you questioning.

I covered a few.

People in the know can't say anything, that is obvious.

Earth bound or not, people may be running these craft and
won't tell us.


I am talking about the reporters of the mainstream media!!!

Why is it obvious that "people in the know" cannot say anything?!

Is there a law prohibiting them from opening their mouth? If yes which law?! The extra-terrestial contact law does not apply here!




posted on May, 13 2008 @ 04:41 PM
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Nation Security Act of 1947 provides for the elimination of Tesla's
secrets from the public.
Document were taken off library shelves.

And people can die knowing too much, like Forestall and its not
ETs its people hiding true atomic energy, not the radio active kind.

Anything related to the UFO saucer or Tesla craft is illegal and
can be spoken. Forestall had an interview with an ABC reporter
asking about his memoirs who ask if aliens would be talked about.
He thought the guy was ridiculous as aliens were the cover story
for the top secret saucer mechanism.

The entanglements are quite involved.

Some of the Lyne research from 'Pentagon Aliens":



Yes, the two sides were Siamese twins, born of an SS father and CIA
mother, representing two opposite sides of the same bogus wooden nickel,
counterfeited in America as one of the first shams of the CIA under the
fraudulently misnamed "National Security Act" of 1947, which was never
submitted to Congress for its approval, because its authors—CFR bankers at
Pratt House—knew it contained so many unconstitutional provisions and
violations of American liberty and sovereignty, that they feared it would never
be approved. (It "went into effect" like most illegitimate usurpations of rights
and powers, through executive edict.)
The "Siamese Twins" born at Roswell were the two, diametrically
opposite prongs of the Pentagon's concealment apparatus, UFOlogical
Paranormalism and Skeptical Official Denial A more organized skeptical
initiative was later mounted, as a 'civilian' adjunct to the official deniers, as the
counterpart to UFOlogy. Both these fields were planned by the CIA and grew
out of the ranks of the CIA's and Air Force Intelligence's plainclothes and
covert agent contingencies. This also included such people as businessmen,
university professors, astronomers, astrophysicists, meteorologists, other
scientists, and aeronautical experts, many of whom were already affiliated with
the government's secret projects. Many new press, magazine, book, and screen
writers, producers and actors were soon on the payroll, to launch the "alien"
scenario through the popular media. There were similar fabrications and
concealments in academic areas and textbooks.
Since I originally wrote about the movie-UFOlogy-CIA connections


Looks like double trouble from the twins.

Perhaps the preceding paragraph would help:




It is not difficult to imagine the strange mental processes involved in
searching for a new way to present the same Old Tired Big Lies which saw
their American premier at Roswell, New Mexico, in 1947, giving birth to the
"Twin Lies"....that "aliens have landed" and that "flying saucers don't exist".
This BIG LIE SYSTEM was. originally designed by the intelligence personnel
of the Gestapo, the Reichsicherheithauptamte VI ("National Security Agency
Div. 6"), and the Roswell hoax and the drama which followed has a dualistic
nature which is typical of the gnosticism which was the basis for the SS
religion1. Former SS intelligence agents at Alamogordo designed and initiated
the Roswell hoax


Yeah, saucers are bad... not for main stream talk.

See the 'Secret Space' video ... Willy Ley came on TV in the 50s and
says we know nothing about saucer UFOs and he worked on them.



posted on May, 14 2008 @ 03:58 AM
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I am positive reporting a UFO is by no means illegal. The media does however report some sighting, but not very often. For example it may be years before you hear of a sighting that was phoenominal enough to be excepted into the air waves. For example, what happened in arizona...

Understand though, the media wants to get the publics attention and these days UFO's isnt gonna cut it, some of the last things most of the blind citizens of this country (i say this because of what the government has done to our society) wanna hear is anything about UFO's, rather it be fear of the government or just straight up the boredom of hearing about these things from friends and family since the day they were born its just not a good holder from teh media.

But let me ask you guys, do you think another power is in play here? perhaps the government sticking there noses in the press to make sure we only hear what "they" want us too? Just as 911 and other cover-ups the government has most certainly made. I mean think, dont you know that most of those reporters out there for the major news stations have by now heard about what the government did to our country on that faithful day 9/11?

Yes most likely, BUT!! why dont tehy tell the people? because they have either been silenced, threatened to be, or are afraid.... We all know what they gov. does to keep mouths closed.... just ask some survivors from A-51.... I rest my case



posted on May, 14 2008 @ 07:17 AM
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Right. There are dozens of these horror stories, but this is one of the best documneted and overlooked despite NBC covering it in prime time in 1999 called The Trumbull County Disturbance, which occurred near Youngstown, Ohio in 1994 (covered in NBC's "Confirmation" Feb. 1999, see Youtube), investiagted two years after the fact by Kenny Young. Here, local Youngstown media knew about the event in detail and went on record saying they were afraid to cover it. Local Air Force and FAA leaned on local media. The Feds admittedly have agents in all levels of the press corps for the express purpose of squashing unflattering stories. This event was huge and involved many civil authority figures from NE Ohio, but the miliatry and Feds basically called them all fools.
NBC completely ignored this very important conflict between local authority, local press and the military, focusing entirely on the sensational elemnts of this truly horrific event!
Doe this help answer the original question?



posted on May, 14 2008 @ 11:08 AM
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I think et saucers go way back before 1947! Ancient carvings and other artifacts can be found just about anywhere. Dropa discs from china is a good example as are carvings in egyptian pyramids. Also have you heard that all or most of the pyramids are astronomically alligned?

Have you heard about the monuments on mars and the moon? Columbus while crossing the atlantic made an account in his logbook. The bible makes vague references as do other ancient scholary writings.

It is thought that the reptilian race on earth goes back many millenia, perhaps eons? Not sure about this.

Maybe I can think more but probably not worth it....

As for the executive order to national security you mentioned its certainly nothing new as newer revisions are constantly added and people are clueless. If the president does not have a "need to know" then that says a lot.



posted on May, 14 2008 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by djerwulfe
Right. There are dozens of these horror stories, but this is one of the best documneted and overlooked despite NBC covering it in prime time in 1999 called The Trumbull County Disturbance, which occurred near Youngstown, Ohio in 1994 (covered in NBC's "Confirmation" Feb. 1999, see Youtube), investiagted two years after the fact by Kenny Young. Here, local Youngstown media knew about the event in detail and went on record saying they were afraid to cover it. Local Air Force and FAA leaned on local media. The Feds admittedly have agents in all levels of the press corps for the express purpose of squashing unflattering stories. This event was huge and involved many civil authority figures from NE Ohio, but the miliatry and Feds basically called them all fools.
NBC completely ignored this very important conflict between local authority, local press and the military, focusing entirely on the sensational elemnts of this truly horrific event!
Doe this help answer the original question?


What strikes me odd is that the press chooses which ufo reports to cover and disregards the rest. Strange! You would think that if the news were truely censored nothing would be reported.

Why are some reported and not others? There seems to be a huge gray area as to what can be reported and what cannot. Who makes these decisions and how do they keep reporters "in-line"?

I am not saying there isn't any conspiracy, I am saying it must be a huge conspiracy and everyone is following mostly unwritten rules. Its like when you go to a party you must act accordingly, nobody tells you what is acceptable but if go out-of -line you sense it.


Under such circumstances I would never be a "good" reporter. I am a bit too rebellious.



posted on May, 14 2008 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
This brings me to media ignoring the topic for decades. Why are they ignoring the topic? Is it against the law to report sightings? If so why do we get the occassional reports and documentaries but not on a regular basis?


I assume you're talking about the mainstream media? It reports on credible UFO sightings all the time (recently, the Phoenix Lights and the Texas UFO, both of which got national coverage). The media doesn't report on every UFO sighting because there are so many hoaxes and reports from crackpots. But, when a credible sighting occurs (typically when many people saw the same event) it does get press coverage.

Outside of the mainstream media, there is a whole cottage industry of people making lots of money off of the UFO subject. You can even watch "UFO Hunters" on The History Channel...


Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
If we can make a destroyer vanish then why can't the super evolved aliens? Its not that far fetched as some may think.


What makes you think "we" can make a Destroyer "vanish?" When do you think this occured?


Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
If ufology is highly classified(as some say) and I partially accept then why are we here discussing the topic and not arrested? Another unwritten NWO rule?


"UFOlogy," which can be practiced by anyone, is not "classified" at all. Some aspects of the UFO phenomenon have, however, been proven to be classified (through FOIA requests) by the US and other governments.

What are these "unwritten rules" to which you are referring? We have a pretty open system of laws here in the US anyway.


Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
All comments welcome.


Thanks!



posted on May, 14 2008 @ 11:58 AM
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I think the answer to your initial question lies in knowledge of who CONTROLS the media.



posted on May, 14 2008 @ 12:24 PM
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The problem is that the reports tend to go nowhere. Most often people (or more often a single witness) see something strange in the sky. It disappears leaving nothing but a story for the witness to tell. With no photos or evidence, this is not particularly exciting news.

Even repeated sightings that are localized and have happened to multiple independent witnesses are newsworthy only for a short time. Instead of building into a larger story, people eventually stop seeing these things and the story comes to a dead end.

Also the potential for hoaxes is very high. News agencies depend on their reputation. No newspaper or news department wants to admit that they've been a victim of a hoax. The risk of looking incompetent is too high even if no hoax is involved. They're better off reporting hard news that may develop into bigger stories.



posted on May, 14 2008 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by JustMe74
I assume you're talking about the mainstream media? It reports on credible UFO sightings all the time (recently, the Phoenix Lights and the Texas UFO, both of which got national coverage). The media doesn't report on every UFO sighting because there are so many hoaxes and reports from crackpots. But, when a credible sighting occurs (typically when many people saw the same event) it does get press coverage.


"Hoaxes and reports from crackpots".
Right...how convienent!

I wonder who creates most of the hoaxes anyway. Maybe cointelpro? Seems logical because they can easily discredit the whole ufo movement that way.

And your crackpot theory is beyond ridiculous. Its non-sensical!


Originally posted by JustMe74
Outside of the mainstream media, there is a whole cottage industry of people making lots of money off of the UFO subject. You can even watch "UFO Hunters" on The History Channel.


So basically anyone making a buck on "fringe science" is a con artist? I have been hearing this BS for years so forgive me if I get slightly annoyed!



Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
If we can make a destroyer vanish then why can't the super evolved aliens? Its not that far fetched as some may think.


Read about the philadelphia experiment so you can get a clue!


Originally posted by JustMe74
"UFOlogy," which can be practiced by anyone, is not "classified" at all. Some aspects of the UFO phenomenon have, however, been proven to be classified (through FOIA requests) by the US and other governments.

What are these "unwritten rules" to which you are referring? We have a pretty open system of laws here in the US anyway.


I don't know and thats why I am asking. I was hoping to build a discussion around this. Some people know more than others so it doesn't hurt to get a "second opinion"...does it?



posted on May, 14 2008 @ 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by NephraTari
I think the answer to your initial question lies in knowledge of who CONTROLS the media.


This is the real question. Who controls the media?

I hate using NWO because it is too generic. I would say the military-industrial complex because they stand to benefit the most by secrecy.

All private contractors involved in black projects can probably make a "killing" by monopolizing on any new tech. They apply for patents and sell to the highest bidder. Its also a good way to keep the us military way ahead of everyone else.

I am not trying to sell my theory as fact but IMO this is probably one of the biggest reasons to hush-hush. The panic factor of exposing the et presence may also be a concern especially after lying for over five decades.



posted on May, 14 2008 @ 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
This is the real question. Who controls the media?

The people who watch television news and buy newspapers. The advertisers play a part too.



posted on May, 14 2008 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Read about the philadelphia experiment so you can get a clue!


"The story is widely regarded as a hoax."

The article also points out many flaws and contradictions in the story.



posted on May, 14 2008 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by scowl
"The story is widely regarded as a hoax."


Yeah of course it is. Anything out of the mainstream is a "hoax".


Originally posted by scowl
The article also points out many flaws and contradictions in the story.


Wikipedia is a good starting place to get some "facts" but thats about it.

I am not going to post other links. Just do a search!



posted on May, 14 2008 @ 03:09 PM
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Title 14, Section 1211 was removed from the CFR in 1991. It's not a law anymore.

Even when it was in the CFR, it only provided for penalties for those who disregarded the quarantine orders as applied to NASA missions. The law was not applicable to any random "E.T." contact.

So, rest easy after shaking hands with the Nordics in your backyard.



posted on May, 14 2008 @ 04:46 PM
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Trumbull County Ohio Disturbance. It's tough to completely squash a story when there were hundreds of witnesses, the best they can do is ignore it.

There's a CIA document from 1991 that clearly sets out the current status of intelligence and domestic media outlets, (Current as of 1991,) and they have made great efforts to ensure penetration at all levels.

CIA document:
www.disclosureproject.org...

Hustler interview w/ Dr. Greer, 2005:
www.disclosureproject.org...



posted on May, 14 2008 @ 04:52 PM
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What strikes me odd is that the press chooses which ufo reports to cover and disregards the rest. Strange! You would think that if the news were truely censored nothing would be reported.

I disagree. Disinformation is (was) the mode of the day. Like magician's tricks. Play up this to distract from that. Too many people see UFOs to completely ignore them. So spread a fog, and keep everybody guessing. I thought that was a given....?
Lincoln did it. He was ruthless with Northern press during the American CW.



posted on May, 15 2008 @ 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
And your crackpot theory is beyond ridiculous. Its non-sensical!


No need to be rude. Many, many UFO sightings have turned out to be hoaxes or just people seeking their 15 minutes of fame in the media. As I pointed out, when it's a credible witness (an airline pilot, for example, or a military officer) or where many people do see the UFO, it does get covered by the national media. I even gave you two examples of recently reported UFO's the national press.

Your argument was that there is a "media blackout". I responded by giving you examples of how and why this is not the case. I guess you can believe what you wish.


Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
So basically anyone making a buck on "fringe science" is a con artist?


In my opinion, YES. Thousands of people have actually seen UFO's and are not "selling" their stories. They are infinitely more credible.


Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Read about the philadelphia experiment so you can get a clue!


YOU get a clue. From your own link:



Operation Ghost was an alleged naval military experiment at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, sometime around October 28, 1943, in which the U.S. destroyer escort USS Eldridge was to be rendered invisible to human observers for a brief period. It is also referred to as Project Rainbow. The story is widely regarded as a hoax.



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