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Originally posted by chise61
Oh btw i'm not a sir
Originally posted by beach2197
Define your use of "super being"....sprout wings and fly around and save people?...become someone that shoots webs out of his wrist and swings around town capturing evil in his web? ....become an intelligence so advanced you cannot live on this stupid little planet anymore and jump to another universe....or do you come to the realization that your "super being" means you're better than everyone else?
Originally posted by beach2197
If original sin is a lie, then how is it that people are still killing one another, commiting adultery, stealing. Don't you think those things are sins that stem from the original sin? Don't you think they are morally bad? If original sin didn't happen, then no one has died throughout history, and Julius Cesar is my neighbor and my girlfriend is Joan of Arc.
Originally posted by MatrixProphet
Inheriting the sins of our fathers is a reality. We can inherit physical attributes and defects, such as heart disease, blue eyes, etc.
This is the perception god portrays "himself" as in the bible, telling he is all good, all caring, and call loving...which im saying is a load of crap!!! cause if "god" was ALL loving, and A:: caring and ALL understanding...
well then people on earth woul dnot be suffering so much!!
Originally posted by undo
it's not making us stronger but the viri and bacteria is adapting, instead.
If that is true then there are millions of babies in Hell. I question the intelligence / smarts of people who believe babies are born with sin.
Originally posted by Lannock
[If that is true then there are millions of babies in Hell. I question the intelligence / smarts of people who believe babies are born with sin.]
If you don't mind i'd like to give you my take on this. First i refuse to believe that god would send an innocent child to hell. I don't think that "the sins of the fathers being past to the son" is meant as literally as some take it. Imo i think it's more along the lines of, when we were first created we had no knowledge of good & evil therefore we could not "sin" in the sense of the word.
When adam & eve sucumbed to temptation and therefore learned about good & evil they opened the door for us to sin. When they gained this knowledge they would naturally pass it down to thier children, therefore passing down the option for thier children to committ sin, not passing down thier own sin. The only way for god to change this and prevent us from being sinful, would have been for him to kill them and start over with new people that didn't have the knowledge of good & evil.
If a child is born and never taught the difference between right & wrong, good & evil then he has no sense of either and therefore is incapable of sinning as he knows not what it is. Ex; if that child has never been told that it is wrong to kill and goes outside to play, starts throwing rocks at tress and birds and hits & kills a sparrow, he doesn't know he has done anything wrong because he has never been told and can not have that knowledge wiyhout being told.
Had adam and eve never eaten from the tree of knowledge of good and evil they would not know of these things therefore could not pass on this knowledge, so we would have continued to live in innocence. I believe that is what's meant be the sins being passed down. But that's only my opinion.
[My apologies ma'am ]
lol quite alright, no need to apologize, no way for you to have known.
[As for who killed how many, check this site.Check the rest of the site for much more.]
I wasn't disagreeing with you, i'm aware of how many deaths are attributed to god. I was only referring to the fact that there are deaths attributed to satan & you neglected to speak of them.
[Someone wanted us to remain ignorant and someone wanted us to gain knowledge. I would say the one who wants us to gain knowledge is the good guy. ]
You may be right in your belief, i'm just asking is his motive for wanting us to gain knowledge purely for our benefit, to truely help us,or is it strictly to defy someone ? If it is the latter, then that would not make him the good guy.
[Just a suggestion: Your posts will be easier to read if you split the quotes.
Those that have not been born again are spiritually blinded to the truth and things in scripture (the bible) doesn't mean nothing to them anyways-