Originally posted by nexusmagazine
Originally posted by iamcamouflage
reply to post by nexusmagazine
Glad to see you finally admit this whole thread was to promote your magazine.
Do you care to answer any of the question I have asked you? Or do you just want to ignore them and attack me for questioning you motives?
Once again, for the record:...
- this thread was started so that I could put a prediction into the public domain.
- it was not created to promote my magazine - (you are doing a much better job on that than I am actually, because every time you and Mainer post
something, it pushes the thread to the top of the list) I assumed when I posted it that it would contain my entry only, and then just sit on the
server - and be a success or a failure.
- you haven't actually asked any reasonable questions - unless you call accusations with question marks, questions.
Once again, I suggest you let the thread die. Better still, go fan that new thread you just started about using predictions to make money - which is
something most normal people would call 'gambling' - not marketing.
I have asked several reasonable questions and you keep ignoring them. These are not accusations, they are valid questions for someone making claims
that they have access to someone who can predict the future. Using fear or predictions to sell a product or service is without a doubt a form of
marketing. If you dont believe me, try taking a marketing class or just turn on your televsion. Any intro level marketing class will tell you about
fear based marketing and the ethical dilemas that surround this type of business strategy.
Ever catch one of the "we buy gold" commercials? This is prediction based marketing. How many people went out and bought duct tape and plastic
sheeting after 9/11. What about the pharmacutical industry selling cholesterol meds and obesity drugs and gastric bypass, based on predictions.
Here are the questions I have asked, not one bit unreasonable for the claims you are making.
-Can you provide any proof that anyone you know has accurately predicted any significant event?
-Did any of these people document any of their predictions on a forum, so the date and time can be verified?
-Could you at least list some examples of these significant events?
-Is it morally right to sell products based on fear predictions?
If your going to make predictions shouldnt you provide evidence of your credibility. I mean that is the least someone should expect from a person
claiming to know someone who can predict the future. I have no problem with people making predictions based on science or economics or even just a
gut feeling, but its different when you have an agenda and something to sell. I have only attacked your intentions with this thread and asked that
you provide some proof that you or your friend have credibility in your predicting. You have failed to provide that and only respond with attacks on
my character for calling you out.
I'm sorry but your thread wreaks of self promotion and scam to sell magazines. If you make extraordinary claims you are going to be required to
provide that extraordinary evidence and you have not even tried to provide any evidence of knowing people who have predicted significant events. You
wont even expand upon those events let alone any prove that they actually predicted them.
If you havent noticed, there are many crazy and extraordinary claims made on this website. And in most, there are posters asking for proof or some
kind of evidence to support those claims. And your right anyone can post anything they wish and can make any prediction they want but if you think
that you are special and will not be asked to provide some evidence, you are dead wrong. There are many threads that end up getting a [HOAX] label
after the OP is unable to provide evidence or it is proven that they are lying. How are you above this criticism?
If it wasnt for people like Mariner, myself and others calling BS on unsubstantiated claims, then this site would have no use at all. If we take every
post as fact and do not question the poster to back up their claims, then this site would lose credibility.
I can make all the claims on want but if i cannot back them up in any way then my own credibility will be hurt. That is why i dont go around making
up things i cant prove. What good does it do anyone to make things up without evidence to support it. I wouldnt expect anyone to believe me without
proof and I am going to hold others to that same standard i hold myself to.
Its very clear that you have been backed into a corner with regards to providing any evidence and its expected from someone making prediction claims
because there is no evidence that anyone can accurately or consistantly predict anything. And most prediction threads end up this way, the OP is
wrong on the prediction and is unable to ever provide proof for any future predicitons. I'm just surprised that you are still defending your claim
and that this thread had nothing to do with promoting your magazine, counter to all the evidence stating otherwise.
But like you said Mariner and I have kept it going, providing you with even more exposure, so maybe you have succeded and we are the fools for falling
for your game. So, I will leave this thread where its at as to not provide you with any further promotion.
Well played Nexus, you are the marketing/prediction master
[edit on 22-7-2008 by iamcamouflage]