Predicting a huge earthquake in June 2008, page 16

reply to post by nexusmagazine

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Glad to see you finally admit this whole thread was to promote your magazine.

Do you care to answer any of the question I have asked you? Or do you just want to ignore them and attack me for questioning you motives?

Originally posted by iamcamouflage
reply to post by nexusmagazine

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Glad to see you finally admit this whole thread was to promote your magazine.

Do you care to answer any of the question I have asked you? Or do you just want to ignore them and attack me for questioning you motives?

Once again, for the record:...

- this thread was started so that I could put a prediction into the public domain.
- it was not created to promote my magazine - (you are doing a much better job on that than I am actually, because every time you and Mainer post something, it pushes the thread to the top of the list) I assumed when I posted it that it would contain my entry only, and then just sit on the server - and be a success or a failure.
- you haven't actually asked any reasonable questions - unless you call accusations with question marks, questions.

Once again, I suggest you let the thread die. Better still, go fan that new thread you just started about using predictions to make money - which is something most normal people would call 'gambling' - not marketing.

Duncan

Originally posted by nexusmagazine

Originally posted by iamcamouflage
reply to post by nexusmagazine

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Glad to see you finally admit this whole thread was to promote your magazine.

Do you care to answer any of the question I have asked you? Or do you just want to ignore them and attack me for questioning you motives?

Once again, for the record:...

- this thread was started so that I could put a prediction into the public domain.
- it was not created to promote my magazine - (you are doing a much better job on that than I am actually, because every time you and Mainer post something, it pushes the thread to the top of the list) I assumed when I posted it that it would contain my entry only, and then just sit on the server - and be a success or a failure.
- you haven't actually asked any reasonable questions - unless you call accusations with question marks, questions.

Once again, I suggest you let the thread die. Better still, go fan that new thread you just started about using predictions to make money - which is something most normal people would call 'gambling' - not marketing.

Duncan

I have asked several reasonable questions and you keep ignoring them. These are not accusations, they are valid questions for someone making claims that they have access to someone who can predict the future. Using fear or predictions to sell a product or service is without a doubt a form of marketing. If you dont believe me, try taking a marketing class or just turn on your televsion. Any intro level marketing class will tell you about fear based marketing and the ethical dilemas that surround this type of business strategy.
Ever catch one of the "we buy gold" commercials? This is prediction based marketing. How many people went out and bought duct tape and plastic sheeting after 9/11. What about the pharmacutical industry selling cholesterol meds and obesity drugs and gastric bypass, based on predictions.

Here are the questions I have asked, not one bit unreasonable for the claims you are making.

-Can you provide any proof that anyone you know has accurately predicted any significant event?

-Did any of these people document any of their predictions on a forum, so the date and time can be verified?

-Could you at least list some examples of these significant events?

-Is it morally right to sell products based on fear predictions?

If your going to make predictions shouldnt you provide evidence of your credibility. I mean that is the least someone should expect from a person claiming to know someone who can predict the future. I have no problem with people making predictions based on science or economics or even just a gut feeling, but its different when you have an agenda and something to sell. I have only attacked your intentions with this thread and asked that you provide some proof that you or your friend have credibility in your predicting. You have failed to provide that and only respond with attacks on my character for calling you out.

I'm sorry but your thread wreaks of self promotion and scam to sell magazines. If you make extraordinary claims you are going to be required to provide that extraordinary evidence and you have not even tried to provide any evidence of knowing people who have predicted significant events. You wont even expand upon those events let alone any prove that they actually predicted them.

If you havent noticed, there are many crazy and extraordinary claims made on this website. And in most, there are posters asking for proof or some kind of evidence to support those claims. And your right anyone can post anything they wish and can make any prediction they want but if you think that you are special and will not be asked to provide some evidence, you are dead wrong. There are many threads that end up getting a [HOAX] label after the OP is unable to provide evidence or it is proven that they are lying. How are you above this criticism?
If it wasnt for people like Mariner, myself and others calling BS on unsubstantiated claims, then this site would have no use at all. If we take every post as fact and do not question the poster to back up their claims, then this site would lose credibility.

I can make all the claims on want but if i cannot back them up in any way then my own credibility will be hurt. That is why i dont go around making up things i cant prove. What good does it do anyone to make things up without evidence to support it. I wouldnt expect anyone to believe me without proof and I am going to hold others to that same standard i hold myself to.

Its very clear that you have been backed into a corner with regards to providing any evidence and its expected from someone making prediction claims because there is no evidence that anyone can accurately or consistantly predict anything. And most prediction threads end up this way, the OP is wrong on the prediction and is unable to ever provide proof for any future predicitons. I'm just surprised that you are still defending your claim and that this thread had nothing to do with promoting your magazine, counter to all the evidence stating otherwise.

But like you said Mariner and I have kept it going, providing you with even more exposure, so maybe you have succeded and we are the fools for falling for your game. So, I will leave this thread where its at as to not provide you with any further promotion.

Well played Nexus, you are the marketing/prediction master
xoxoxo


[edit on 22-7-2008 by iamcamouflage]

reply to post by nexusmagazine

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Well then there's still plenty of time to prove the nay sayers wrong, I don't even know why they're arguing with you and calling you a fraud when the deadline hasn't passed yet, really they should wait until the Olympics begins before they start dishing out the dirt to you!

Has your friend had any further predictions ?

Originally posted by Discotech
reply to post by nexusmagazine

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Well then there's still plenty of time to prove the nay sayers wrong, I don't even know why they're arguing with you and calling you a fraud when the deadline hasn't passed yet, really they should wait until the Olympics begins before they start dishing out the dirt to you!

Has your friend had any further predictions ?

Yes, my friend has had further predictions, that sort of stem from his 'current' one after it is fulfilled.

One of them is that there will emerge a terrible disease from the millions of dead bodies. He is adamant that this disease will pretty much ONLY kill meat eaters. He says that a bacterium exists that will mutate upon its entering the gut of meat-eaters. The 'new' bacterium will kill the person quite quickly and is highly contagious. In a funny sort of a way, it made me think of the biblical saying (and I am NOT religious!) where 'the meek shall inherit the Earth' - as I reckon vegetarians qualify as a good definition of 'meek' in its nicest and truest sense/definition.

He also says that a huge tsunami will hit the east coast of Australia some time in the near future (doesn't know if it is weeks, months or years away). No surprises there, we have a big one every 300 years or so (the last one was mid-18th century, meaning we are due for one around now), and every psychic and visionary ever to land in Sydney comments on the big wave that will make the new beachfront up towards the Blue Mountains behind Sydney.

Basically he says that the China quake will shock the world on every level imaginable - trade & economics, health & disease, and other triggered tectonic events (volcanos and more earthquakes). He is talking a death toll in the hundreds of millions from the quake alone, and far far more with the disease. (I am a meat eater, but if the quake happens, I can assure you that I will become an instant vego, and so will all my family and friends lol)

As you can imagine, I really do not wish to see any of this happen. In fact, one of my secret motives for posting his vision, is that I believe that the more people who think about, focus on, or are aware of - a prediction - the LESS likely it is that that prediction will 'manifest'. (On your/our timeline anyway). Kooky I know, but heck, if it has any chance of causing his vision NOT to appear on our shared timeline, then I'm happy to help see him fail.

peace

Duncan

Ok boys and girls, I think it's time for us to take a step back from this issue for a minute and catch us a breathe. For the record, the OP was posted as follows:

Predicting a huge earthquake in June 2008

I am passing this on - I wanted to put it on the record, in case the sources were correct.
A huge earthquake (over 9.5 Richter scale) is predicted for around mid-June this year (2008) - centred off the coast of China. It is predicted that a tsunami of 50m (I think) will race inland causing unimaginable damage. It will result in the Olympic Games being cancelled. The margin of error for the time is +/- 2 weeks, meaning it could be anytime in June.

Now that the prediction in question has passed, I'd like to point out that this is no longer a viable prediction, unless something else has been added to it since then. I must regretfully admit that I haven't had the time to read this entire thread. My jobs are too time-intensive to allow me that luxury. Suffice it to say though that this entire thread is based on the above quoted material.

After the end of June, this prediction was proven false, and the author has admitted as much on more than one occasion already. His declaration post to this effect is found here.

That was on page 13. We are now on page 16, well on our way to 17. While it's true that the prediction didn't happen (THANK THE LORD ABOVE!!), the member that issued the prediction was merely passing on what they heard from someone else, in the hopes that they could substantiate what they said.

[my opinion]For all we know, the mere act of posting this prediction stopped it. I can sleep well believing that.[/my opinion]

Anyway, since this was resolved, we're now encountering some hostilities between particular members. I won't name names, as you know who you are. Consider the following my moderator's stance on this issue.

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Edited for missing bracket.

[edit on 23-7-2008 by TheBorg]

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