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Originally posted by Tenzin
Cadbury, do you have an IM or something? I cant U2U you for some reason?
Ok, I read the FT article on the World Government. Its deplorable. In fact I just finished outlining why it's a bad thing and could never work without Despotism to a friend that believes in it (via email). Does that make him an Illuminati? No. He's a j&ck*&$. Look I get your point and I feel that you and I can have logical discussion I really am open minded. It's just that in my heart of hearts I truly don't see how this is logical is all.
Oh yeah, "plausible deniability?" That went out the window if this guy is real! And that's my whole point. Thanks for making it for me. As the wise man Jim Marrs put it in his best selling book title, "Rule by Secrecy" not by spilling the beans.
Originally posted by emsed1
I do believe that he believes everything he is saying.
Pathological liars can convince even the best polygraph analyst. How (you ask)? Because they, "believe everything they are saying!" If you believe your own lie it sounds most convincing to the ear and even shows no sign of deceit to a machine because in fact the machine can only gauge your reactions to questions when you lie (heart rate, breathing, ect.) if you are not telling a lie (to your mind) there will be no reaction. Therefore you will be found to be truthful and showing no deceit.
So believing that a person believes everything he is saying counts for little to nothing. I know I sound like a jerk but that's just the truth. I like facts.
However, those loans did occur as reported in the media. I don't think the full $4 Trillion has been accounted for, but Maban did predict it weeks before it happened.
Originally posted by Darky6K
Ok, I got one, what about Dulce and Area 51, what goes on there, is Nightmare Hall true?
I'm a sceptic about some things. Although I will concede that I have sneaking suspisions from time to time. I guess I can say that I'm not willing to buy the farm on Maban's behalf (lock stock and barrel).
Maybe that's really why I even read his initial post to begin with, just to sooth a curiosity.
But then again, logic requires at least one skeptic for balance so I guess I have suited my purpose. Until such a time that I feel secure in some evidence provided, I'll just have to stand by that.
Originally posted by Maban
In the end all we truly can decide, is whether we are good or evil.
Many may question my allegiances; with good reason. I admit, I have allowed the taint of darkness upon me, but so only to protect those innocent in need of my protection, so they will not have to forge the sacrifice of innocence themselves. I have taken the darkness into me, with its powers to wield against it, and know I will readily die before I allow it to take control over me. Subtle or not as an Illuminated being, I cannot allow the darkness to extinguish yet another flame in the already dark void humanity has created around its still cold hearts.
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Maban as percieved was merely an experiment.
When he was addressed he withdrew.
The person representing himself as Maban is still here in the shadows.
Originally posted by Maban
Humanity faces a decision to deviate from the middle way and embark upon a path. The issues is that not all choose the same path. As more near the cusp of understanding, the cusp of realization; the paths diverge greatly and more radically.
At one path stands the path of Illumination, the path of seeking betterment. A path of communal self sacrifice for all, a state where all live in what the scriptures of the world call paradise; a paradise shaped by the hand of man with spiritual inspiration. This path towards understanding, complete compassion, total selflessness to the point of instinctive self sacrifice, is the path of Illuminsim. Upon its cusp is where the true "place," the true "state" of Enlightenment exists. Once one crosses the threshold to a new existence, an existence ungoverned my by the primitive laws of man and allegedly immovable human natures a new existence and purpose for man unfolds.
Originally posted by 12.21.12
Maban, good to see you back. I want to ask you about something. Do you believe that we are all one? Would you agree that the mandelbrot set shows us a clear understanding to what God really is? In this model called the mandelbrot set there are voids and areas of complete darkness, is this what you are talking about?
Also it is said that for humanity to evolve we must attain a critical mass of consciousness to exceed 144,000. Could you please elaborate on this a little more. I understand there are certain topics which you are not allowed to discuss, so what ever you can tell us would be much appreciated. Thanks!
Originally posted by carslake
I'm not sure you can convince me Maban that the majority of humanity is close to achieving the middle way even.
And you ask us to raise ourselves up to the holistic enlightenment you propose. Can it be done without leaving allot of people behind seems unrealistic.
I'm not in opposition, I agree in the breadth and in the depth of your message, well most of it
Perhaps you misinterpreted my meaning, or perhaps I simply misspoke.
In totality most people are of the "median way" (let this not be confused with the Buddhist "middle way," that is a different idea altogether), this median way is of indifference and a degree of self centrism, and alack for compassion, or hatred for their neighbor. Only extreme groups and "elite" leaders are of the devoid path. Individual the spectrum varies, but en whole most are in the "middle," indifferent.
I seriously doubt it can be accomplished in our lifetime, short of supernatural events.
Most plausibly this change will occur over a long period of time (centuries, even millennia) where humanity will finally find its way. Many will be "left behind," but they will lead "normal" lives, with the proceeding generation building atop their progression.
In time a mass movement either way will occur. However, it should be painstakingly noted, that our actions here and now effect the direction we move in. They may not affect them en whole, but they slowly "nudge" them in either direction. The only question remains is; "down which path?"