Meet the Dead Hijackers

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by jthomas
Funny that the truth has been known for 6 1/2 years yet you claim you are still looking for it.

The only truth you know is what you have been told by the media.

Funny, none of the evidence I and 99.9% of the world rely on comes from the media but from hundreds of independent sources. Yet, 100% of what you rely on - and repeat like a religious mantra - comes only from the claims of a handful of "9/11 truthers". We have shown you and other 9/11 truthers repeatedly why your thinking is wrong.

Anyone with basic intelligence and common sense should be able to see something wrong with the official story.

That is ONLY because you believe what you have been told. We know there is no "official story", but only the massive evidence from hundreds of different independent sources, none of whom are from the media or the government. Why you deny this is a real puzzle.

I have shown a lot of things wrong or missing from the official story and have shown reasonable doubt that it would not hold up in court either.

No, you've just repeated what 9/11 Truthers have told you. There are dozens of us who have refuted you entirely on every thing you have ever brought up. You completely ignore it. Evidence, reality, logic, and truth still don't convince you. All we can do is ask "why?"

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by Disclosed
Could they get other fake documentation made as well? Fake papers from the FBI, or NSA or anyplace?

Please stay on topic, 1 more time i will notify mods.

I'd be careful there, Ultima1. In some forums you would be considered a troll.

Originally posted by Conspiracy Realist
reply to post by ThroatYogurt

 

How about answering the question which has long been UNANSWERED:

Please supply some proof, evidence, facts to prove that the hijackers are indeed deceased?

Is there any DNA evidence to suggest anything to the contrary?

Do you just sit there believing what the government has programmed you to do; believe what they say, and flat out deny anything contrary to they're word which is taken as..."The Gospel".

Peace

CR

As usual the above has gone un-answered

Peace

CR

Originally posted by jthomas
Funny, none of the evidence I and 99.9% of the world rely on comes from the media but from hundreds of independent sources.

What independent sources? Please show me any real source that has facts and evidence to support the official story. And some sorce beside NIST.

Beasue i can post tons of actual real sources that question that official story.

I mean there are large websites with thousands of people who do not believe the official story. Pilots, High Raqnking Military, Security Specialist, and Engineers.

Also the fact that first responders from ground zero have been speaking out against the official story.

Originally posted by jthomas
I'd be careful there, Ultima1. In some forums you would be considered a troll.

Thats really funny coming from as believer that mostly troll.

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by jthomas
Funny, none of the evidence I and 99.9% of the world rely on comes from the media but from hundreds of independent sources.

What independent sources? Please show me any real source that has facts and evidence to support the official story. And some sorce beside NIST.

Beasue i can post tons of actual real sources that question that official story.

I mean there are large websites with thousands of people who do not believe the official story. Pilots, High Raqnking Military, Security Specialist, and Engineers.

Also the fact that first responders from ground zero have been speaking out against the official story.

What "official story"?

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by jthomas
I'd be careful there, Ultima1. In some forums you would be considered a troll.

Thats really funny coming from as believer that mostly troll.

I've already shown you as a troll. If you continue, I'll report you.

Originally posted by jthomas
What "official story"?

I see you completly ignored my post.

You konw the official story that the media fed us on the TV. The one that most people are still brainwashed into believing.

[edit on 13-5-2008 by ULTIMA1]

reply to post by ULTIMA1


Sir,

There are many people here waiting for you to offer evidence to back up any of your claims.

Please keep in mind, lack of evidence (in your opinion) is NOT proof.

You claim to have done more research than most, yet you have never offered ANY evidence. Why?

Your an NSA agent and you have NOTHING to add?

Any proof that you are an NSA agent?

:TY:

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by jthomas
What "official story"?

I see you completly ignored my post.

You konw the official story that the media fed us on the TV. The one that most people are still brainwashed into believing.

[edit on 13-5-2008 by ULTIMA1]

Careful, Ultima1, you're on troll watch. Define "official story" for everyone here. If you can't, explain why.

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
There are many people here waiting for you to offer evidence to back up any of your claims.

I have provided evidence, its not my fault if people do not want to accept it,

Its just too bad no one has posted any evidence to debate me or to support the official story.


Here is some more evidnece about the FBI trying to confirm the ID of the hijackers.
www.fbi.gov...

It should be noted that attempts to confirm the true identities of these individuals are still under way. The FBI asks anyone who has ever seen or has information about these individuals to immediately contact the nearest FBI office or the toll free hotline number 1-866-483-5137 or submit information at WWW.IFCCFBI.GOV. The photographs can be viewed at WWW.FBI.GOV.

[edit on 14-5-2008 by ULTIMA1]

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
There are many people here waiting for you to offer evidence to back up any of your claims.

I have provided evidence, its not my fault if people do not want to accept it,

Its just too bad no one has posted any evidence to debate me or to support the official story.


Here is some more evidnece about the FBI trying to confirm the ID of the hijackers.
www.fbi.gov...

It should be noted that attempts to confirm the true identities of these individuals are still under way. The FBI asks anyone who has ever seen or has information about these individuals to immediately contact the nearest FBI office or the toll free hotline number 1-866-483-5137 or submit information at WWW.IFCCFBI.GOV. The photographs can be viewed at WWW.FBI.GOV.

[edit on 14-5-2008 by ULTIMA1]

LOL hard to refute that.....

I am also still waiting for the evidence from these "believers".....

I shall continue to wait, although i get more enjoyment watching my pot plant grow on the side of my windows edge rather than reading there posts.

Peace

CR

Originally posted by ULTIMA1
Here is some more evidnece about the FBI trying to confirm the ID of the hijackers.
www.fbi.gov...

It should be noted that attempts to confirm the true identities of these individuals are still under way.

Moderators - I'm responding to this point in two threads which are currently active in relation to assertions that some of the hijackers are still alive. Basically the same points are being repeated in both threads, by more or less the same small number of individuals. Perhaps one of the relevant two threads should be closed? The other relevant thread (which has fewer views, posts and flags) is "Hijackers Alive?".

Ultima1,

It is important to note that your "evidence about the FBI trying to confirm the ID of the hijackers" is NOT evidence that about current attempts by the FBI but is instead evidence of attempts a few days after the 9/11 attacks.

The relevant FBI press-release dates from "September 27, 2001" (as is clearly stated at the top of the relevant webpage).

That statement by the FBI is still repeated on the Internet as if it represents the current view of the FBI.

That is highly misleading.

As has been noted in various articles and on various websites, the Director of the FBI shortly thereafter stated that it had resolved doubts about the identities of the hijackers.

See. for example, this CBS news item from 2 November 2001 about the relevant subsequent statement by the Director of the FBI. It includes the following:

The FBI has resolved questions about the identities of the 19 hijackers involved in the Sept. 11 attacks and has discovered places outside the United States where the conspiracy was planned, FBI Director Robert Mueller said Friday.

Saudi Arabian officials and others have questioned whether some of the hijackers identified by the FBI in the weeks after the attacks used stolen identifications. Mueller said those questions have been answered.

"We at this point definitely know the 19 hijackers who were responsible," he said. "We have been successful in working with our foreign counterparts in identifying places where the conspiracy we believe was hatched as well as others who may have been involved in the conspiracy."

Also, in relation to your reliance upon the trackingthethreat.com website, it is important to remember the email exchange I had with the operators of that website in which I asked about the statement on their website that some of the hijackers have an "entity status" of "alive".

You will recall that the operators of the trackingthethreat.com website stated that they need to do an "update to correct" their website.

I wonder whether you will stop relying upon the trackingthethreat.com website once they have done their planned "update to correct" their website.

All the best,

Isaac

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
There are many people here waiting for you to offer evidence to back up any of your claims.

I have provided evidence, its not my fault if people do not want to accept it,

Stop dodging and define "official story" for us. You are the one using it so define exactly what you mean.

Originally posted by IsaacKoi
It is important to note that your "evidence about the FBI trying to confirm the ID of the hijackers" is NOT evidence that about current attempts by the FBI but is instead evidence of attempts a few days after the 9/11 attacks.

But the statement i quoted does show that the FBI was not actullay ssure about the ID of the hijackers.

Also i have posted a source that stated their were hijackers alive and has a date of 2007. I have not seen any evidence to debate what i have posted or any evidence that the hijackers are dead that is newer then the information i posted.

Originally posted by jthomas
Stop dodging and define "official story" for us. You are the one using it so define exactly what you mean.

What am i dodging? If you do not know what the official story is that is not my fault. Seems like just another ploy for the believers not to post evidence.

I have poted a source that shows hijackers are alive, (no one has posted any evidence to deabte it or to show the hijackers are dead)

I also have posted a souerce fomr the FBI that stated they were not sure of the IDs of the hijackers.

Still waiting for evidence to debatge what i have posted or to prove all the hijackers are dead.



[edit on 14-5-2008 by ULTIMA1]

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

What am i dodging? If you do not know what the official story is that is not my fault. Seems like just another ploy for the believers not to post evidence.

I have poted a source that shows hijackers are alive, (no one has posted any evidence to deabte it or to show the hijackers are dead)

I also have posted a souerce fomr the FBI that stated they were not sure of the IDs of the hijackers.

Still waiting for evidence to debatge what i have posted or to prove all the hijackers are dead.

First of all, you have to start using spell check. Your posts are almost not readable.

There has been plenty of debate about your "source" (trackingthethreat.com)

you have been shown time and time again that they themselve URGE others to verify their information by investigating it themselves.

you have been asked what investigation you have done and all you have stated is that you e-mailed another website.

You have been asked at least 50 times what you have to share what evidence you have and you have responded with nothing.

Whats up?

You have also stated that you work for the NSA. You offer NOTHING to prove this.

You are indeed borderline trolling this forum.

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
There has been plenty of debate about your "source" (trackingthethreat.com)

There has only been statments and opinions about my source NO EVIDENCE to debate me source.

Official Story:
19 hijackers comandeered four passenger jets, flying them into WTC1, WTC2, the Pentagon, and a field in Pennsylvania. The impact and subsequent fire/destruction inflicted on the Twin Towers caused their catastrophic failure and collapse with much loss of life. The Pentagon suffered damage and loss of life. All 266 passengers on the four planes and the 19 hijackers were killed in the attacks.

Does my understanding of the Governments' story seem accurate, if incomplete ?

Just trying to provide the information a poster requested to the best of my knowledge.

Originally posted by FewWorldOrder
Official Story:
19 hijackers comandeered four passenger jets, flying them into WTC1, WTC2, the Pentagon, and a field in Pennsylvania. The impact and subsequent fire/destruction inflicted on the Twin Towers caused their catastrophic failure and collapse with much loss of life. The Pentagon suffered damage and loss of life. All 266 passengers on the four planes and the 19 hijackers were killed in the attacks.

Jus as i stated, the BS that the media tried to pass off on us on 9/11. Hard to beleive anyone with basic intelligence and common sense could still believe it.



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