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Meet the Dead Hijackers

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posted on May, 6 2008 @ 11:28 PM
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Here's a link: www.cooperativeresearch.org... nts

Mr Hopsicker interviewed the people that responded to the photo that was released on TV after the attacks. The people he interviewed were people who recognized Atta from his photo. So, unless your claiming this other Mohammad Atta looked just like the hijacker Atta, your claim that Mr Hopsicker is wrong is incorrect. Did this other Atta also hang out with the other hijackers, and attend flight schools with them? That's a pretty outrageous claim, but if you can show some evidence, I will entertain the idea.

Your claim is Daniel Hopsicker is confused and Aukai Collins just made up his story? And I guess you are also claiming that in 2 years Hanjour became "the most religious of the hijackers." Does that mean the other hijackers had been Muslim for less than 2 years? Or did they just not pay attention as much as Hanjour? These are supposedly Islamic fundamentalists, so I guess I don't understand how a 2 year Muslim can become the most religious of them all. Please explain.




posted on May, 7 2008 @ 12:54 AM
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Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
This group says the earth is flat. Must be the truth!


Let me guess, a lot of people that still beleive the official story are probably members.



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 08:50 AM
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Your claim is Daniel Hopsicker is confused and Aukai Collins just made up his story? And I guess you are also claiming that in 2 years Hanjour became "the most religious of the hijackers." Does that mean the other hijackers had been Muslim for less than 2 years? Or did they just not pay attention as much as Hanjour? These are supposedly Islamic fundamentalists, so I guess I don't understand how a 2 year Muslim can become the most religious of them all. Please explain.


I don't think that Collins made up his story, I just have a problem with the timeline. Collins claims that Hani wasn't very religious when they met back in 97 or 98, that's one to two years before the 9/11 plot was seriously considered and Hanjour could not have known anything about it. Add to that, he wasn't selected as a participant until the spring of 2000.

It may be a difficult task to judge which one was the most religious because all of them martyred themselves for religion.

ETA: Can you provide a more specific link regarding Hopsicker and the people he interviewed?





[edit on 7-5-2008 by Boone 870]



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 12:17 PM
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The whole Hani smoked and drank is a poor way to prove anything about the man.

Islam absolves any transgression against the teachings of Mohammad if one gives their life in a jihad. Becoming a martyr trumps all.

Just like with Catholics can be absolved if they ask for it. It MUST be given.



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
This group says the earth is flat. Must be the truth!


Let me guess, a lot of people that still beleive the official story are probably members.


What?!? ULTIMA, are you trying to imply that the Earth is not flat?

I don't know about you, but I 'beleive' (sic) that all we see around us is empty space. Solidity is an illusion. We are nothing but electonic force fields, on a fundamental level....the sub-atomic level.

The dead hijackers had identical twins, or clones....sounds reasonable to me....prove it wrong.

9/11 never happened. It was just a hologram, and as soon as you ask the computer for an exit, the simulation ends......



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker
What?!? ULTIMA, are you trying to imply that the Earth is not flat?


No just stating that if people can still beleive the official stroy they probably aslo believe the earth is flat, i mean since it seems they cannot think on their own and follow what they are told.



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 02:26 PM
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ULTIMA.....do YOU believe the Earth is flat?

Think about it....you are here, looking around you, and have no instruments to use....from your POV, at about 6 feet tall....the land looks pretty flat!!

Galileo, with his telescope invention, began the 'heresy'.....and it just keeps going from there!!

Darn you!! Galileo!!! And your science!!!!

[shaking fist]

.....breaking news......'Old Man Yells at Cloud!'.........

WW



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker
ULTIMA.....do YOU believe the Earth is flat?


Well i do research to find things out instead of just going by what i see and what i have been told (unlike the believers).



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 04:06 PM
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Captain wrote in the OP, that Hani Hanjour was the most religious of the hijackers, but FBI CIA informant Aukai Collins tells us different. He say this about Hani Hanjour: “He wasn’t even moderately religious, let alone fanatically religious. And I knew for a fact that he wasn’t part of al-Qaeda or any other Islamic organization; he couldn’t even spell jihad in Arabic.” So who exactly considered him the most religious?



Hani Hanjour, from Ta'if, Saudi Arabia, first came to the United States in 1991 to study at the Center for English as a Second Language at the University of Arizona. He seems to have been a rigorously observant Muslim. According to his older brother, Hani Hanjour went to Afghanistan for the first time in the late 1980s, as a teenager, to participate in the jihad and, because the Soviets had already withdrawn, worked for a relief agency there. 9/11 Commission Report



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by ULTIMA1
Well i do research to find things out instead of just going by what i see and what i have been told (unlike the believers).


Really?



Originally posted by ULTIMA1


But if it makes you happy i will be glad to find some more proof for you. Since i can do research.


We are still waiting for your proof since you can do research.

Thanks

:TY:



posted on May, 8 2008 @ 01:25 AM
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Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
We are still waiting for your proof since you can do research.


Still doing research, somethng it seems you know nothing about.

I am still wating for evidence that all the hijackers are dead.

[edit on 8-5-2008 by ULTIMA1]



posted on May, 8 2008 @ 10:59 AM
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ULTIMA....by your own statements, you work for the NSA...(which doesn't officially exist, by the way).....even though, on the BW Parkway, there is a big green sign that denotes the exit to the NSA...(for employees only)....I always wanted to take that exit, just to see what would happen...

Call it a death Wish?

So......if you WORK at the NSA.....why does your research take so long?

AND.....IF you work at the NSA, then you are likely breaking a thousand rules of confidentiality by posting on this forum.......and your IP address has been seen, by now (as all of ours have, no doubt....word up!)

I know the satellites are already focusing in, right now....bouncing off a car on the street, and reflecting into my window....I can see myself!!!!!

Heard helicopters last night....I think they're watching me.....

Paranoia is an insidious disease.....worse than alcoholism...

WW





[edit on 5/8/0808 by weedwhacker]



posted on May, 8 2008 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker
ULTIMA....by your own statements, you work for the NSA...(which doesn't officially exist, by the way).....even though, on the BW Parkway, there is a big green sign that denotes the exit to the NSA...(for employees only)....I always wanted to take that exit, just to see what would happen...


If you take the ramp you would come up to to a Vehicle Contol Point and turned around if you did not have an NSA badge.


So......if you WORK at the NSA.....why does your research take so long?

AND.....IF you work at the NSA, then you are likely breaking a thousand rules of confidentiality by posting on this forum.......and your IP address has been seen, by now (as all of ours have, no doubt....word up!)


Well for 1 i am doing a lot of research, more then just this thread or this forum.

Second, i am not able to get online from work (secure system) the IP address is my home computer.











[edit on 8-5-2008 by ULTIMA1]



posted on May, 8 2008 @ 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by ULTIMA1


But if it makes you happy i will be glad to find some more proof for you. Since i can do research.





Been a while now. I wonder where that additional proof will be coming from.

Tracking the Threat so far is the only thing you got.

I can't wait to see the rest of the proof.

:TY:



posted on May, 8 2008 @ 09:57 PM
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weird......you are online more than I am!!!!!

WHAT!?!?! You can't get online from work??!?!?! At the NSA?!?!?????

They don't have internet at the NSA?

Huh?????

Oh....you can't POST from your work station, at the NSA....but you can from home.....right......

Nobody monitors your private time, as an employee of the NSA.

You just drive in, from New Oxford, PA, to the NSA 'station' near BWI...that's about a 90-to 120-minute trip, depending on traffic....each way.

Awful commute.....do you go online in your car?

ULTIMA....come clean. You are not what you claim!!!

Best respect......



posted on May, 9 2008 @ 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
I can't wait to see the rest of the proof.


Well waiting is one thing, but the believers never posting any proof when asked is another.



posted on May, 9 2008 @ 01:27 AM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker
weird......you are online more than I am!!!!!

WHAT!?!?! You can't get online from work??!?!?! At the NSA?!?!?????


1. If you look at the times i am normally on around 3AM before going to work and after 3PM when homoe from work.

2. My system at work is a secure network, i cannot get into the internet. Gee you really do not know much about the real world and the real workplace do you?



posted on May, 9 2008 @ 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by ULTIMA1
Well waiting is one thing, but the believers never posting any proof when asked is another.


...promising to show proof ANY hijackers are alive, then failing to do so is another as well.....as you stated here:


Originally posted by ULTIMA1
But if it makes you happy i will be glad to find some more proof for you. Since i can do research.


Guess you cannot find proof or do research to back your claims!



posted on May, 9 2008 @ 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by Disclosed
Guess you cannot find proof or do research to back your claims.


Gues you cannot find proof to debate my evidence, support your claims or the official story.

At least i do research and not jsut live in a fantasy world.



posted on May, 9 2008 @ 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by ULTIMA1


But if it makes you happy i will be glad to find some more proof for you. Since i can do research.


Sir, I am still waiting for your researched results. Tracking the threat does not offer anything to back up what you are claiming.

Please submit the evidence you clamied that you could find. If you can't please admit to this and retract your promise.

:TY:




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