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reply posted on 18-4-2008 @ 12:41 PM by quintar
Please forgive if this is old news:

SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:

(1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.

(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:

(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--

(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;

(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;

(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or

(IV) [any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.

(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--

(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);

(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or

(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.

(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--

(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

(ii) chemtrails;

(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;

(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;

(v) laser weapons systems;

(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and

(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.

(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.


This is from Bill H. R. 2977. It mentions the specific word 'chemtrails' in it.

So someone IS aware of its existence... BUT, you just need to confuse the masses of what the actual definition of this word is.

Link


reply posted on 18-4-2008 @ 01:21 PM by Essan
reply to post by quintar



a) the use of the word chemtrail does not mean that contrails are chemtrails - what makes you think they are? After all, persistent contrails have been around for decades.

b) the truth behind the bill is something chemtrail disinformationists choose to ignore

contrailscience.com...

Fact: this bill provides exactly nil evidence that persistent contrails have anything whatsoever to do with chemtrails.

(and all photos of alleged chemtrails look 100% identical to contrails)

Conclusion?


reply posted on 18-4-2008 @ 02:02 PM by NephraTari
I Have already proven Chemtrails are a real threat and different than contrails in the debate forum.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

check it out if anyone wants to argue with you.
I proved it beyond doubt with a proposed bill that listed chemtrails as an exotic weapon.

Its all in the thread.

I have seen these things as they are laid down and watched over the course of the day as they spread out slowly across the sky in some cases until it looked like a natural cloud cover. totally overcast!



reply posted on 18-4-2008 @ 02:16 PM by Essan
reply to post by NephraTari



And I have pointed out that mentioning chemtrails in a bill which was never passed is not evidence (let alone proof) that what those of us who have taken the time to study the subject say are contrails are anything else.

After all the bill doesn't actually describe what a chemtrail look like, does it? What makes you think a chemtrail looks identical to a contrail?

Where is your evidence that any contrail is a chemtrail? After all, I can provide dozens of scientific papers written over several decades which describe exactly what are claimed as being chemtrails and in every case they are shown as being contrails...

for example:

ams.allenpress.com...

Ah, problem?


reply posted on 18-4-2008 @ 02:42 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by NephraTari



Nephra....you 'proved' the alleged 'chemtrails'?

Amazing....you 'proved' it?

Although, as has been mentioned very recently, in this thread (maybe) but in others....if you want to direct a 'spray' on a target, you fly low...ever seen crop dusting? Or fire fighting from the air?

Sorry....a chemical at 35,000 feet is completely useless....do you not understand the jetstream? I haven't read your linked thread, yet, obviously, so if you addressed that concept my apologies.

Right now, I have errands to run, so I'll come back and see what sort of 'proof' you provided.

Can't wait.

WW


reply posted on 18-4-2008 @ 03:58 PM by NephraTari
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to
post by NephraTari



Nephra....you 'proved' the alleged 'chemtrails'?

Amazing....you 'proved' it?

Although, as has been mentioned very recently, in this thread (maybe) but in others....if you want to direct a 'spray' on a target, you fly low...ever seen crop dusting? Or fire fighting from the air?

Sorry....a chemical at 35,000 feet is completely useless....do you not understand the jetstream? I haven't read your linked thread, yet, obviously, so if you addressed that concept my apologies.

Right now, I have errands to run, so I'll come back and see what sort of 'proof' you provided.

Can't wait.

WW

Visit the link I posted for the proof!
There was an entire debate around this topic and I won in the end btw. The judges determined I had proven my point that they are real and a threat.

When politicians acknowledge something even in a proposed piece of legislature.. If you cannot accept that as proof... then there is little then what the heck can you consider proof? It is much more substantial than some 2nd rate website heresay. . We are talking legislation!


reply posted on 18-4-2008 @ 05:02 PM by Sri Oracle
here is a screen capture from the second video in the op



DaRAGE, if you can get a mod to put the image into your OP it may improve the front page of the thread.

Sri Oracle

[edit on 18-4-2008 by Sri Oracle]


reply posted on 18-4-2008 @ 06:53 PM by quintar
reply to post by _Del_



These were taken in a span of days. I have the originals if anyone asks.





There above two images show an airplane, ascending, and no trails that I can see. They were taken this evening.




The above (bad camera) picture shows a chemtrail right opposite the same shot of the airplane.










The above images were taken an hour earlier, and you can see at least 3 trails there. No planes to be found.


Days before:





Same sky, same height, same area.


Here is the gallery where I uploaded the originals, in a larger resolution.


reply posted on 19-4-2008 @ 01:08 AM by Alien Abduct
Originally posted by Essan
reply to
post by Alien Abduct



Yes

Chemtrails - if they exist - are something completely different.

They are unlikely to be visible from the ground, it's highly unlikely they will only be sprayed in areas where atmospheric conditions are ripe for persistent contrails to form, and the video/photographic evidence frequently presented as 'proof' of chemtrails is nothing of the sort, just misinterpretation of normal contrails, clouds and other well documented and studied atmospheric phenomena, by those who have little experience at studying such things.


How do you know they are just normal contrails?
YOU DON'T
Did you take samples of all those "contrails" in all those pictures?
YOU DIDN'T
How can you tell by just looking at them?
YOU CAN'T
You say we cant say they are chemtrails by just looking at them
I SAY, YOU CANT SAY THEY ARE JUST CONTRAILS JUST BY LOOKING AT THEM.



P.S. It is my belief that chemtrails are sprayed to control weather and in doing this the Chemtrails need to be visible please review my past posts before you make such weak arguments that have already been explained.

-Alien
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