WTC 7 Serious Proof of Controlled Demoltions, page 24
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reply posted on 29-5-2008 @ 03:32 PM by Soloist
Originally posted by Griff
How about this?


I thought we were talking about C-4? This guy was making fireworks.


How's this?

Abstract : A major problem of explosives is their accidental thermally initiated catastrophic decomposition. Most bulk military explosives, such as RDX, HMX, and TNT have such hazards. Even somewhat safe explosive materials, such as ammonium nitrate, when combined with fuels, such as wax or other hydrocarbons can overheat with catastrophic results. Additives can make explosives resistant to burning or catastrophic decomposition. Cure-castable, melt-castable, and pressable compositions were made with additives. Several types of flame retardants and other inhibitors were incorporated into these compositions to inhibit the thermal initiatory reactions and yet retain energetic potential when initiated by a strong shock. Explosive compositions were tested by DSC, Flame Test, Hot Wire Test, Cook Off Test, Plate Dent Test, Drop Weight Impact, as well as compatibility tests. The results indicate that these explosives should be safer in accidents or combat-induced thermal events. Keywords: Explosives, RDX, HMX, Cookoff tests, Polymers, Thermal decomposition, Flame retardants, Binders, Inhibitors.


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Ok, this is better. However, I have questions that this doesn't answer. How high of a temp do the additives allow the material to handle? How long of a duration before failure begins to occur? Are there any examples of these tests where we can see the actual results?

Granted this was in the 80's , so maybe there's some newer information or tests?


reply posted on 29-5-2008 @ 04:46 PM by dunwichwitch
I'd like to point out what I've come to believe.

Anyone who watches the several good quality videos of WTC7 falling (oopsies, gov't) with a mind so open as to accept the fact that everything you know is a lie... and even those who just see things for what they are.... can see that WTC7 was deliberately taken down. There's no question in my mind about that. If you look at the collapse of the twin towers and you see where some of the debris did indeed hit the WTC7 building, and then you compare it with the course of the collapse later on.... it just doesn't match up. Why would the building fall straight down, if the debris from the towers only damaged a portion of one face of the building?

However... the question of explosives weighs heavily on my mind. Was it the use of explosives alone that brought the building down? I think lately that there just wasn't enough signs of a controlled demolition using conventional high explosives. The simple fact is that explosions are loud and are visible from the outside of the building.

C4.... there's no way c4 could've been used without it being obvious to everyone.

Thermite, possibly? That's what I've been hearing, but even that gives of massive amounts of heat and sparks, and it takes a few seconds to completely burn through even a lightweight car frame. We're talking heavy duty steel colums here.

Sometimes, the most extraordinary angle is the one to look at.

Lately, I've been seriously considering the DEW theory.

look at this webpage here:

Manfred Zysk: Star Wars Defense Initiative

I also realized that these space based laser satellite systems could also be used directly as weapons to destroy military facilities and major operations centers on the Earth’s surface, and automatic laser beam adjustments would be made to compensate for any atmospheric diffusion of the laser beam. It seemed that laser beams of 4-inch thickness were possible.


These weapons exist. If you read the rest of that page, you'll realize that Manfred knew about this in the Early 60's. What do you think they have now?

If one building was destroyed with directe3d energy weapons, then ALL of them were destroyed with directed energy weapons.

It is possible that it was a combination of exotic incendiary devices AND DEW... but I'm not so sure I'd bet my money on incendiary devices alone to do the job to perfection. There's too much room for error, and we're talking about furthering an agenda that has been in planning for 40 or so years. If that didn't go according to plan, the factions within the government would have been exposed. All the dirty laundry and the 60 odd years of lies, secrecy, and hidden agendas within the alphabet agencies would have been spilled out onto the street. Billions and billions of dollars in laundered civilian tax money would have been brought to light... and you might as well have started the Second Civil War on that day....

but almost everything seems to have gone directly according to plan... and I still can't explain how they did it so well.

All I know is just look at the videos of the buildings falling, watch them over and over and over, and you KNOW there's just no way it could've fallen like that. The human mind... don't underestimate it's inherent ability be able to understand the physics of motion (just think of how well some people can shoot baskets. You don't need to be a physicist to make the perfect shot.).

Anyway... I'm almost reluctantly starting to look at some of the information John Lear has presented about the destruction of WTC7 and the twin towers.

If you seriously think about it, he can't be too far off base... at least about the DEWs. These are space based energy weapons that leave no trace and no physical evidence at the scene of the crime. What a perfect backup plan, at least.


reply posted on 29-5-2008 @ 05:05 PM by bsbray11
reply to post by Soloist



Why would you even ask me this after I already said I don't even think C4 specifically was used? And again, unless the engineer was a total idiot, no C4 would be placed where it would catch fire anyway. They put high explosive charges, especially shaped charges, in metal containers. Those would be easy to insulate on the inside if fire would be considered a problem.

What do you think happened to WTC7? Because no matter what you think, you have just as much evidence as I do. Who does that make right or wrong?

[edit on 29-5-2008 by bsbray11]


reply posted on 29-5-2008 @ 11:05 PM by IvanZana

firefighters SUPPORTING the CD theory...

now, have you seen the video when BBC announced WTC7 collapsed 20 minutes before it actually has?








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reply posted on 30-5-2008 @ 12:49 AM by JPhish
reply to post by Seymour Butz



there was what appeared to be a "CIA operative" (although my informant was not sure; he/she knows it was not FBI) near the base of the building telling the firefighters at WTC7 not to bother going in and that the building was cleared. There were also threats made to anyone who questioned the orders. I honestly don't remember the exact conversations that took place. But from the account, the overall feeling was suspicious to say the least.
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