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reply posted on 9-3-2004 @ 06:05 AM by jezebel
The Bible doesn't say how old the earth is. I've never read or been shown a passage that shows the length of time between the Earth being made and various events that occured in the Bible. How is it that people came up with the whole young Earth theory anyways?

As for the Flood being just a fairy tale, there are many accounts of a global flood by ancient civilizations all over the world. It's not strictly a Biblical account by any means.
In the traditions of most ancient civilizations there can be found a legend concerning a flood of such enormous proportions that it is believed to have covered the whole Earth. Such was the destructive force of this flood that few land animals and plants survived it. For readers in Western society the most famous version is the story of Noah and the Ark as recounted in Genesis, the first book of the Bible. Although it may be the best known, the account of Noah's adventure is neither the only nor the oldest such legend.

Legends of a flood can be found in the folklore of such diverse places as the Middle East, India, China, Australia, southern Asia, the islands of the Pacific, Europe, and the Americas. But the best-known flood legend--that on which the story of Noah is based--had its origins among the peoples of ancient Mesopotamia in the Tigris-Euphrates river valley.

In a fully developed form, the Mesopotamian flood myth appeared in the 'Epic of Gilgamesh', one of the first literary masterpieces, which relates the adventures of a hero-king of Sumer. The earliest versions of the epic derive from the first part of the 2nd millennium BC. The story of the flood is told to Gilgamesh by Utnapishtim, the counterpart of Noah in the story. Advised by the god Ea that his city is to be destroyed by flood, Utnapishtim is told to build a ship for his family, servants, and animals. After a seven-day flood, the vessel comes to rest on a mountaintop. The wrath of the gods has been appeased, and Utnapishtim and his wife are granted immortality.

Religious texts from the 6th century BC in India tell the story of Manu, meaning "man," who is warned by a fish about a coming flood. In the legend Manu builds a boat and saves himself.

In China the flood myth had a different emphasis from the legends told in the West. The flooding of the land from time immemorial was seen as a hindrance to agriculture. The floodwaters were made to recede through the labors of a savior-hero named Yu the Great, who successfully dredged the land to provide outlets to the sea for the water. Thus was the great central river valley of China made suitable for agriculture and the development of civilization.
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So obviously, there was SOMETHING that happened which involved a world-wide flood. I imagine that the water from it found it's way underground and became the source for our wells, subterrainian rivers, geysers (like at Yellowstone), etc and froze in the polar regions creating the ice caps. That's just my theory on it anyways, but I do not claim to be the authority on the subject.


reply posted on 9-3-2004 @ 02:08 PM by Blacktron
So Noah's Ark is a to Far Fetched Implausible Things (FFIT)?

Isn't ATS devoted to FFIT? As seen, people put up "facts" saying the Ark could have been. People put up "facts" saying the Ark never could have been. Just like Greys and Reptoids and Cassiopeans.

We do not know for certain the age of the earth. We have estimates ranging from 6 thousand to 4 billion years. Problem. No one was there to record the date and time in a scale we know and understand. Earth had processes and patterns back then (however long ago). Problem. No one has left us a scienfic record of experiments conducted back then.

We live on a world that has huge mountain ranges and deep trenches. We argue about how they got there. We find tropical fossils on Antactica and we argue about how they got there. It seems obvious from said facts about fossils and mountain ranges that the earth has seen its share of catacalismic, plate-shifting geological events.

Why is a world wide flood a FFIT? Just because an admittedly old book said that's what happened? That's more record than anyone else has recorded. This is not a question of science, because scientists failed to leave us a record.

For myself, I'll buy this FFIT far more easily than I'll buy a lot of FFITs on this board. And I don't buy Greys.

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It is my understanding that the Himalayas are still slowly riseing because the plate that India sits up is slowly drifting underneith it and propping it up. The Rockies appear to potentially be the result of someone pushing those plates around and having them buckle. I find it entirely plausible that the mountains covered by Noah's flood were not much of mountains by our reckoning, and that tall moutains as we know them didn't appear until later.

As to the water, there is a great deal of water tied up in the atmosphere that wasn't necessarily always there as well as a great deal of "virgin water" in the depths of the earth that science hasn't monitored for more than a very short length of time.


reply posted on 10-3-2004 @ 12:06 AM by orionthehunter
I was skimming over these posts about the great flood. I saw one posting that mentioned the size of the boat and how and what type of animals were inside. Something that I did not read here is a description of the flood from a so called guy from the CIA on a tv show (I believe it was TLC or the Discovery channel.)

Anyway the story I heard was that several features around the planet could only be explained by catastrophic flooding (possibly torrents of water raining down). The story goes that the Earth opened up along the earth's ridges such as the Mid Atlantic ridge and that huge fountains of pressurized water from deep down shot up possibly 10 miles high as the ridges cracked open from the depths in a cascading effect sort of like ice breaking along a crack. Anyway torrents of water rained down and would have covered everything I imagine. The tv show then proceeded to show formerly classified satellite CIA photos of a boat on Mt. Ararat that appeared very high up in the glaciers. This story seems somewhat reasonable to me but begs additional questions.

If tons of water rained down for 40 days and nights, wouldn't there be an indication of this in the antarctic ice sheet?
If this happened around 6 to 10 thousand years ago, how do you account for so many different races of humans? Seems like alot of different races of people on one boat from just one spot on the globe.

If oceans of water were raining down on the Earth, then sea levels would have to be vastly lower before the torrents of rain fell (unless you account for the water disappearing via space somehow).

I've also heard from gene studies that the human race once had only a few thousand people or less where the human race was almost wiped out according to the evidence, can all this be tied to a certain date in the past (maybe 100,000 years ago or 15,000 or something) In other words, evidence of flooding in antarctic along with low human population according to gene studies?

If anyone else saw the show the pics were pretty good of "Noah's boat" for satellite pics that is. The questions were generated by me. any thoughts?


reply posted on 11-3-2004 @ 12:29 AM by lostinspace
Originally posted by Bruno
When it started raining and Noah had all the animals on board. God open up the heavens and the fountains of the Earth. It rained 40 days and forty nights until all was consummed or covered by water. After the 40th day it stoped raining and the waters receeded.
Now as I see it everthing is covered in water, even the tallest mountains. Thats a heck of a lot of water, RIGHT.
RECEEDED TO WHERE????


There was a water vapor canopy in the upper portion of the sky. The vapor content allowed things to be watered by condensation. Plant life would be extremely fruitful with these conditons.
Then to break that all up, a rather large asteroid came in and dented the mantel which produced giant tsunamis. The impactor contaminated the upper water vapor canopy and or the atmospheric pressure changed. Then the vapor condensed into a gridlock of thick rain clouds. It took 40 days to wring out.
But at the start of the impact of the asteroid, the giant tsunamis swept from the western hemisphere to the eastern hemisphere. All the animals were swept under the earth displacement; hence-"all the springs of the vast watery deep were broken open." Noah's ark was located in the eastern hemisphere.
All the mountains were covered with water- the entire surface. For the mountains and continents were not as high as they are today. In order to bring the land out of the water, the ocean floor's were dropped which allowed for an opposite reation for the mountains to push up the continents.

The planet changed:

1. Human longevitiy ended-eating meat required now.
2. unbalanced dry and rainy areas.
3. Hurricanes/tornadoes/lightning-unstable atmopher
3. Too hot, too cold-equator and poles almost unlivable.
4. Vegitation now limited due to sporatic weather.
5. A rainbow now exists-direct sun light against rainfall.

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