Some of Obama's Friends , page 1


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Topic started on 2-4-2008 @ 09:09 AM by FlyersFan
Birds of a father flock together.
You can't pick your family, but you can pick your friends.

Let's take a look at some of Obama’s Friends -

Senator Rev. James Meeks, - a man Obama “seeks out for spiritual counsel”. Mr. Meeks inveighs against white mayors as "slave masters" and scorns blacks who disagree with him as "house [servants]." (actually, he uses the “N” word a lot, but I won’t put that in print)
Homophobe Meeks is a pledged super delegate for Obama. And wouldn’t you know it …there’s a nice fat Rezko connection with this guy as well. Donation money from Rezko and associates to his campaign. Hmmm ….

Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn – of the Woods Fund. (Dohrn is a fan of Charles Manson) Both were in the Weather Underground, the radical cell that killed cops and tried to plant a bomb in the U.S. Capitol. They served prison time and are unrepentant. Ayers told the New York Times that he had no regrets about setting bombs to kill innocents: "I feel we didn't do enough."

Weather Underground members

When Obama and the unrepentant bomber served together on the Woods Fund board, the Fund awarded $6,000 to Jeremiah Wright's Trinity United. You know … the ‘church’ that is based on the teachings of
James “destroy whites” Cones , the founder of so-called ‘black liberation theology’. Later the Obama-Ayers board awarded a generous grant to the Arab-American Action Network.
Rashid Khalidi of the group has PLO (a terrorist group) connections and was even their spokesman. He’s the one who invited Ahemedinejad of Iran to speak at Columbia. Remember Ahemedinejad? The one who unceasingly calls for the destruction of America and who says that Iran doesn’t have a ‘homosexual problem’ (because the hang them in public)

Woods Fund Information

Oh look! A a Woods/Obama/Rezko connection. What a surprise!

Now about Khalidi … hmmm … Oh yes .. there is his “politically rich relationship” with Obama that is very interesting. A friendship? Maybe, maybe not. But a definitely a relationship.

And there are
Haywood, Gorman and Abbruzzese Their full names are George W. Haywood, John J. Gorman, and Jared Abbruzzese. Abbruzzese is at the center of an FBI public corruption inquiry. The information about these friends/associates should be investigated fully. YIKES! Oh .. and how did Michelle Obama get a raise that gave her THREE TIMES her salary –boosting her to over $300,000 a year? Hmmm … the drug company connection with these friends/associates kind of tickle the brain on that one.

And what is the relationship of State Senate President Emil Jones to Obama? YIKES! Yet Another mentor! and ‘Obama’s God Father’ . They describe their relationship as father and son He likes to block
anti-corruption legislation . Hmm .. wonder why?

Illinois State Senator Rickey “Hollywood” Hendon
says of Obama – “he wants to be King of the World”. Wonder if he’s still a friend?.

And what is the relationship of
Nadmhi Auchi to Obama? Auchi’s company has deleted information on two websites regarding Auchi’s visit to Illinois in 2004 upon hearing that rumors that meetings between Auchi and Obama are being exposed. There seems to be a Rezko connection with them too. Oh .. and the
American Thinker site carried the info as well. Friends or just business buddies?

Bill Ayers “kill all the rich people … kill your parents “ .. donated to Obama’s campaign.

Obama’s Illinois Finance Chairman Billionaire James S. Crown – director of General Dynamics and a long time friend/financial supporter of Obama.

Just an FYI – these aren’t ‘friends’ .. but they are campaign contributors. Wonder what they see in Obama that they like? Hmmm ….

Khaleel Ahmed Arrested on terrorism charges in February 2007 and donated to Obama’s campaign.

Zubair Ahmed Arrested on terrorism charges in February 2007 and donated to Obama’s campaign.

Interesting reading for a rainy afternoon -
Washington Times


As this blog points out … while Obama’s friends were bombing the Pentagon, John McCain was serving his country

Just wanted to add Rezkorama . All Rezko all the time.

As the Washington Times says – “The more we learn about who Sen. Obama hangs out with in Chicago, the less authentic his mantra of "brotherhood" and "unity" sounds.”





[edit on 4/2/2008 by FlyersFan]


reply posted on 4-4-2008 @ 03:04 AM by teleonaut
For the record, before I even start in on this, I am a white male under 30 who considers himself to be a moderate and an independent and who has an inherent distrust of politicians and people in general. I have made no solid decision on how I'll place my vote in the coming election, and it's entirely possible that I'll choose to toss my vote for a third party candidate.

Have you also taken a look at the donors, friends, and faults of Hillary Clinton and John McCain? Check out their staff too. It's not as if they're associated only with angels.

The really unfortunate thing that I've come to realize is that every presidential race always boils down to "choosing between fat and ugly," as my best friend would say.

There is no such thing as a perfect man or woman with only perfect friends. Look deep enough into any candidate and you'll find behaviors, qualities, and relationships that are not in keeping with the ideals that we want for our leaders. This is because our leaders are (perhaps unfortunately) human, and humans don't make it through life without getting their feet dirty.

I'm not trying to be an apologist or anything, but there are some really bizarre statements in a couple of these posts. First, white people are not going to vote for Obama so that they don't appear racist. That's just silly. White people will vote for whichever candidate they want to vote for, and if they don't want to appear racist, then they'll just *lie* about how they placed their vote if anyone asks. Second, equating Obama's relationship with his pastor to Nazis denying knowledge of the holocaust is so over the top that I probably shouldn't even comment on it... It's an incredibly offensive suggestion and I find it difficult to think that a person would actually believe that. Can we ever have ANY conversation without mentioning Hitler or the Nazis?

To think that Obama is untouchable is myopic as well. Again, he's human. All humans have done *something* wrong or questionable. The very fact that this thread exists illustrates that Obama has his issues and that people are discussing them. If he makes it into the big event, make no mistake about it: bad things will bubble up. The GOP machine is currently just relaxing and allowing the Clinton and Obama camps to beat each other up. McCain doesn't really have to do anything but sit silently until after the Democratic convention. After that, expect to see a lot of heat put on the Democratic candidate, regardless of who it is.

Politicians cannot be trusted. I repeat, politicians cannot be trusted. Obama, Clinton, McCain... It doesn't matter who you want to dissect, you'll find something disagreeable and dirty about all of them.

/tn.


reply posted on 5-4-2008 @ 06:33 AM by FlyersFan
Originally posted by teleonaut
First, white people are not going to vote for Obama so that they don't appear racist. That's just silly.

Well .. I have heard that from more than one white person. (paraphrase) I'm voting for Obama .. I'm not a bigot'. Like they have to prove it by voting for the guy. It's a VERY strange behavior, but it's definately there.

Oh .. and if you say anything negative about the guy you are (according to them) only saying it because you are racist. So dumb.

Some are definatley voting for him to prove something to themselves and to others. It's like a button they can wear on their sweater .. 'i'm not a racist and I can prove it - I voted for Obama'.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
everyone knows Clinton and McCain are corrupt, but this thread was made because some don't have that impression about Obama.

True.

The Obamatrons have decided that Obamessiah is going to 'change the world' ... and (as much as I hate to quote Hillary) the sky is going to open and celestial choirs are going to sing while the light of God shines down upon him.

The fact is ... Obama is NOT 'hope' and is not 'change'.
He is just like the rest. No different.
And the press is not vetting him as they should.

As for McCain - I'm going to try to put together a thread on him sometime soon. I won't bother with Hillary .. everyone knows her history (lies ... dead body trail). But Obama ... no one is paying attention to the same type of corruption.


[edit on 4/5/2008 by FlyersFan]


reply posted on 6-4-2008 @ 10:10 PM by Odium
...and?

I really do not see much of a point in this thread.

Was the purpose to display Obama looks up to some people who have views that he might not agree with? I mean, you can't have 1 good opinion if you have 1 bad?

Surely a wise man, takes the good, with the bad, but only uses the good to help evolve himself. And thus the good points are passed onto them and the bad can be excluded.

To put it bluntely, I know a homophobe who has a friend who's a lesbian. We all were in college together, they had many arguements in our sociology class because of their alternative views - never has it harmed any of us in any ways. She respects his opinon, he disagrees with her lifestyle, but as people they can get on just fine.

You also have a few other things you really need to think about. The Republican Party hasn't exactly had the best PR in reguards to homosexuals now has it? So unless the point of this was to vote for Hillary surely there was no point in even raising the point?

It's like:
Obama's supporters don't like homosexuals.
McCain supporters don't like homosexuals.
Hillary we don't mention.

Flyers, never would have put you as a fan of hers. :-)

P.S:
I'm voting for Obama .. I'm not a bigot

So what? Good for them as that as their reasoning? You don't think people (idiots) vote for idiotic reasons for every and any candidate? You honestly don't think a few racists would vote against Obama for the sake of voting against him? The same for Hillary?

Also you really do dumb the point down to get it across.

The "boards" that gave these people money? Why not display the voting records showing OBAMA supported it. Otherwise it's just guilt by association.

P.S: Technically it wasn't white people it was "the white enemy" different thing.

As for who gave Obama money? So what.

IF I am running for Political Office, honestly give me money, doesn't mean I have to do what you want. And again you miss the key point:
His list of contributions shows one for $200 from a certain William Ayers

That's $200 out of $180MILLION.

Get a grip. Oh yeah, that $200 got what? 1second of TV advert space, I am sure he's running Obama's life.

"John McCain was serving his country"? In what reguards?

Khaleel Ahmed, Zubair Ahmed - exactly how much of the $180million did they give? IF we're talking thousands you might have a point, if hundreds? So what? I mean...seriously?


reply posted on 7-4-2008 @ 06:37 PM by FlyersFan
Originally posted by Odium
I really do not see much of a point in this thread.

Vetting the candidates strong connections and close personal relationships (and business dealings) with criminals (Rezko & Pentagon bombers), racists, homophobes, etc etc.

Surely a wise man... .

...knows enough not to have as his 20 year mentor a racist pig.
...knows enough not to have numerous business dealings and friendships with a known criminal
... knows enough not to have business dealings and friendships with people who have bombed the pentagon and were on the FBI Ten Most wanted list.
.... knows enough not to have as another mentor a homophobe.

The Republican Party ...

...isn't the topic. However, you should remember that in the Republican party not everyone tows the evangelical line about homosexuals. Heck .. even Cheney didn't want to touch the Constitution to make gay-marriage outlawed.

Flyers, never would have put you as a fan of hers. :-)

I'm not. But even she is a more qualified candidate then Obama.

I'm voting for Obama .. I'm not a bigot

hmmmm ... lay back on my couch and let me get a pad of paper and a pen ... cozy? .... let's dig into the psychology here .... are you one of those white people who feel that they need to prove to the world that they aren't a bigot so they vote for the black man just to prove it? Some are ya' know. I have heard "I'm not a bigot .. see .... I'm voting for Obama .. that means I'm not a bigot' They do it to prove something to themselves and to the world.

it's just guilt by association.

- It IS guilt by association.
- the boards that voted to give the money ... Obama was on the board and if he didn't agree with what the board was doing he would have left.

Technically it wasn't white people it was "the white enemy" different thing.

Techinically it was ALL white people are 'the white enemy' .. same thing.

As for who gave Obama money? So what.

You wouldn't care if the KKK gave money to someone? I would.
You wouldn't care if a terrorist organization gave money to someone? I would!
It has ALWAYS mattered who the candidates accepted donations from.
Always. And it should.

Get a grip.

Oh Odium, Odium, Odium ... I have a grip. It's a shame that the same thing can't be said about the Obamatrons. I'm sorry that you can't see the need for vetting your Obamessiah. But those of us who DO have a grip understand the need. (stop drinking the Obama kool-aide Odium - it's not good for ya'. )

His friendship and business assocation with George W. Haywood, John J. Gorman, and Jared Abbruzzese SERIOUSLY needs to be vetted. That and Rezko.


reply posted on 7-4-2008 @ 08:50 PM by Odium
reply to post by FlyersFan



Of course the KKK donate money, but they donate it as individuals not as the group themselves. Thus it is very hard to trace exactly who is in the party and thus who they support. Isn't it?

I can't find a members list of the KKK online, I have just been trying to.


...isn't the topic. However, you should remember that in the Republican party not everyone tows the evangelical line about homosexuals. Heck .. even Cheney didn't want to touch the Constitution to make gay-marriage outlawed.


So members of the Republican Party can be funded by racists, bigots, homosexuals, etcetera - but the Democratic Party can not?

Just think about what you said:

Cheney didn't want to touch the Constitution to make gay-marriage outlawed


So why would it be any different for Obama?


"I'm not a bigot .. see .... I'm voting for Obama .. that means I'm not a bigot'


Of course people will vote like that. As I said before though, idiots vote for stupid reason. Think about the KKK as you mentioned them - you don't think they'll do their best to make sure Obama doesn't win?

As in, they'd vote against him. Furthermore their are other people who'd not vote for him because of the colour of his skin, as their are people who would not vote for McCain due to him being white and Hillary because of her being a woman.


Obama was on the board and if he didn't agree with what the board was doing he would have left.


Not true at all.

Do you have a COMPLETE list of everyone they gave money to? If you do not, and you do not have a list of who voted for and against you can't say anything like that.

Surely some people can try to be the voice of dissent?
And many charitites do some bad but also do good. It's poor show, to single out this and say: He should have quit without looking at everything they did.

It clearly suits your agenda.


Techinically it was ALL white people are 'the white enemy'


I didn't see that on the source you gave.


You wouldn't care if a terrorist organization gave money to someone? I would!


You mean like Pat Robertson? He has at least once to my knowledge called for the death of all Muslims. He funds the Republican Party in the MILLIONS.

Every Politicion deals with dirty people and gets involved with them. It's to the level one gets corrupted by them that is important.

Have you tried e-mailing Obama's team asking them these questions?



reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 02:32 PM by FlyersFan
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
So he has some connections with people you (or I) don't approve of. So what? They aren't running for president.


It matters a great deal.

That he picks a known criminal slum lord - Rezko - as his long time friend and someone to do business with ... that matters.

That he picks an anti-american racist P.O.S. as his mentor .. matters. This is the guy that Obama has chosen to listen to.

That he picks a homophobe as a long-time mentor (meeks) ... matters.
This is the guy that Obama has chosen to listen to.

That he picks weather underground alumni .. (people who were on the FBI Ten Most Wanted list for bombing the pentagon) as people he sits next to and does business with ... that matters.

These people have influence on him. These people are the ones that he has chosen to help guide him. These are the people who whisper in his ear.

His friendships (and the consequences of the friendships) with George W. Haywood, John J. Gorman, and Jared Abbruzzese seriously need to be looked into.

The connections the politicians have matter a great deal. The mentors and friendships matter a great deal. These matter for Obama just as much as the KKK mattered for David Duke. These matter for Obama just as much as Bush's friendships with Oil tycoons matters. These matter for Obama just as much as Cheney's friendships with Haliburton bigwigs matters. These matter for Obama just as much as any other politicians long term friendships and mentors matter because THEY EFFECT THE POLITICIAN AND HIS DECISIONS.

It all matters. It all needs vetting.


reply posted on 10-4-2008 @ 02:23 PM by Maxmars
reply to post by FlyersFan



I only have one objection to your original post. "While McCaine served his country...."

Sorry, I have got a loooong list of military connections, and frankly - they spit when they hear of McCaine 'serving his country'.

All I can say is - being a POW or being wounded - or even tortured DOES NOT MAKE YOU AN INSTANT PATRIOTIC HERO. It doesn't diminish his sacrifices to say that.

This guy had to whisked away from about 100 sailors who were ready to kill him for his shenanigans. If it weren't for Papa McCaine's old pals, he might have numbered among those killed by friendly fire. Or so I understand from many who served with him.


reply posted on 13-4-2008 @ 02:20 PM by FlyersFan
Did ya’ll know that Rap music is the “fault of the jews’ ?? According to ERIC LEE – who is a high profile Obama supporter in Los Angeles it is.


reply posted on 13-4-2008 @ 04:15 PM by crontab
Obama was taught politics as community organizer by Gerald Kellman, following the tradition of Saul Alinksy. The idea is that in cases where the government is unresponsive to people's needs, you can gain power through the combined power of civic organizations. With large popular support and creative tactics, can gain power from corrupt business and political leaders, and expand the constituency of people, who are served. He worked with all sorts of Chicago civic organizations with varying views. However, that doesn't mean Obama agrees with all of them.

At one time Hillary also was a disciple of Alinsky. However, Hillary has gotten corrupted by Washington, and part of the Fellowship, which is a secretive cult. While they claim to Christian, Joe Lieberman is also member of the group.

McCain spoke to the Council for National Policy, a very secretive Republican group. We know he is really a hard-core elitist.
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