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Topic started on 31-3-2008 @ 10:19 AM by grover
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Cash-strapped Clinton Fails to Pay Bills
www.politico.com
 Hillary Rodham Clinton’s cash-strapped presidential campaign has been putting off paying hundreds of bills for months — freeing up cash
for critical media buys but also earning the campaign a reputation as something of a deadbeat in some small-business circles.
A pair of Ohio companies owed more than $25,000 by Clinton for staging events for her campaign are warning others in the tight-knit event production
community — and anyone else who will listen — to get their cash upfront when doing business with her. Her campaign, say representatives of the two
companies, has stopped returning phone calls and e-mails seeking payment of outstanding invoices. One even got no response from a certified letter.
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reply posted on 31-3-2008 @ 10:19 AM by grover
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When is this rabid egotist and her enablers realize its over and do the graceful thing and bow out?
I used to like Hillary when she was first lady but I have come to the conclusion that she is living proof that women politicans are just as screwed up
as male politicians and (this one at least) won't make America or the world any better.
I would think that such a high profile person would make sure that every cent is paid, i is dotted and t is crossed.... even if she were in the lead
this makes her look real bad, and since she isn't it makes her lok even worse.
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reply posted on 31-3-2008 @ 10:24 AM by grover
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To continue quotes from this article...
Their cautionary tales, combined with published reports about similar difficulties faced by a New Hampshire landlord, an Iowa office cleaner and a New
York caterer, highlight a less-obvious impact of Clinton’s inability to keep up with the staggering fundraising pace set by her opponent for the
Democratic presidential nomination, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama.
The New York senator’s presidential campaign ended February with $33 million in the bank, according to a report filed last week with the Federal
Election Commission, but only $11 million of that can be spent on her battle with Obama.
The rest can be spent only in the general election, if she makes it that far, and must be returned if she doesn’t. If she had paid off the $8.7
million in unpaid bills she reported as debt and had not loaned her campaign $5 million, she would have been nearly $3 million in the red at the end
of February.
By contrast, if you subtract Obama’s $625,000 in debts and his general-election-only money from his total cash on hand at the end of last month,
he’d still be left with $31 million.
So basically her campaign has a track record as a deadbeat... if it were anyone else she would be forced to drop out now.
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reply posted on 31-3-2008 @ 10:24 AM by forestlady
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Hi Groovy Grover: Very nice find. Starred and flagged. It makes me wonder how well she would handle the nation's money, if she can't even manage her
own money. I agree, this makes her look very, very bad. I have a feeling she felt she had the nomination in the bag and just can't bring herself to
realize it's over.
I don't like her either. I don't think Bill or Hillary are very nice people. I think that for them, winning is everything and it doesn't matter how
many people you have to walk on to win. I think they're both probably sociopaths, since they lie pathologically.
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reply posted on 31-3-2008 @ 10:30 AM by grover
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Hey love.
You are totally correct. I liked Bill as president and I like him as an ambassador at large and a fund raiser for charities but he does this nation no
service putting his and his "wife's" egos first and foremost before the party or the nation's well being.
It is not so much that I am a big Obama fan, I'm not really, I preferred Edwards.... but since the choice is Obama or Clinton... well you catch my
drift.
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reply posted on 31-3-2008 @ 10:32 AM by kosmicjack
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Yes I completely agree this is indicative of her inability to manage. (Don't forget McCain was in the same spot last year.) Furthermore it is just
another example of how the Clintons think they can operate above or outside of protocol. There is no shame in these people. If questioned about this
issue I am quite sure she would be dismissiive and indignant. 
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reply posted on 31-3-2008 @ 10:35 AM by apc
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Awesome. People should start to sue for their money.
Gotta put this stray down quick before she's able to print the cash.
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reply posted on 31-3-2008 @ 11:04 AM by Harlequin
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you know its not often i agree - but hell yeah - start litagation and get her into court for unpayed bills allready
think about this : if this is how she runs her campaign - think how she will run the economy 
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reply posted on 31-3-2008 @ 11:24 AM by goosdawg
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Her campaign also let the health insurance bills go unpaid!! 
Among the debts reported this month by Hillary Rodham Clinton’s struggling presidential campaign, the $292,000 in unpaid health insurance
premiums for her campaign staff stands out.
Jay Carson, a Clinton campaign spokesman, stressed that Clinton’s campaign pays all its bills “regularly and in the normal course of business.”
If this is an example of the "normal course of business," wouldn't you just love to see her sitting in the White House throne room? 
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reply posted on 31-3-2008 @ 11:56 AM by InSpiteOf
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I think its funny she runs on a platform for universal healthcare but cant pay her employee benefits in the same field.
Did I say funny, i ment pathetic.
I never liked the clintons, be it bill in office or hillary on the side lines.
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reply posted on 31-3-2008 @ 12:08 PM by kelbtalfenek
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Interesting stuff. Wonder why Billary isn't paying it's bills. Perhaps holding onto a cash reserve just in case? Who knows, but apparently it's
better for one's business not to transact with her campaign.
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reply posted on 31-3-2008 @ 12:39 PM by centurion1211
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Good finds, Grover - starred and flagged.
And I was just getting ready to post the "hillary doesn't pay her staff's health insurance bills" (of all things), but someone beat me to it.
So, what's a good, loyal democrat to do? Especially when hillary's main competition ends up on the internet in photos like this. People have been
saying that they don't trust hillary to answer the White House phone coherently in the middle of the night. I mean what if it was Putin or
the chinese on the Hot Line?
Nope, I still maintain that the best democrat (in the JFK sense of the word) running is ---- McCain. 
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reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 09:12 AM by grover
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Thanks. I have no problem with that photo. Still while I am not thrilled with Obama I will vote for him if he gets the nod. If its Hillary, I may very
well vote for Nader.
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reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 05:17 PM by oLDWoRLDDiSoRDeR
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For 100$ i would say she raped my dog.. Who's to say they were not payed 50k just to avoid her payment. ..
Bah .. All this politics is going to my head.. 
(BTW I'm not a Clinton supporter. Just playing devils advocate)
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reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 08:49 PM by LateApexer313
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Great post!
I am in Ohio...and she did the same thing here, her campaign owes money in Youngstown. I heard on CNN the other day that's she's 700K in the hole,
while Obama has 31 million to play with.
Politicians have absolutely no shame, and no accountability. I agree with the posts here that say take her and her campaign to court.
What I find hilarious, is we wouldn't even be hearing about this in the MSM/CNN if they weren't so blatantly plugging Obama IMO.
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reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 09:27 PM by Apolon
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Watching US presidential campagne I am actually wandering about this funding business!
Whole problem with free and honest elections starts with the money.
Basically, who gets more money for adverts and pays for digging dirt on an opponent gets the chair in the oval office!?
IMO, I rather see some serious debate and equal coverage on a TV and radio regardless of a party influence and wealth.
Only then can you assure honest and fair result. Everything else is a business and has nothing to do with democratic ideals.
If that was organized that way, fair and square I have no doubt that Dr. Ron Paul would be in a white house reshuffling cabinet and abolishing private
"federal bank" and IRS first thing in the morning before shower and coffee.
This way you always have two parties representing few filthy rich family's in US and Europe who are essentially running everything.
This is a shame and a waste of time and money.
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reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 10:36 PM by aava
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I am not sure if you posted that image in jest, but that is an obvious photoshop job. See the Bush phone photos for further clarification .
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reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 11:08 PM by stikkinikki
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This is pretty weak if true. I had my propane people call me up and chew me out for $600 and she gets away with how much? At first I thought this
was a joke like what does she pay her husband for or maybe the cloned the guy.
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reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 11:56 PM by LateApexer313
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Yes it's true, they have been going on and on about it on CNN at least every hour if not more. So I would assume if it wasn't true she'd have
slapped a lawsuit on them. I've been hearing about it since her campaign stiffed a bunch of businesses in Vermont and New Hampshire, and that was
months and months ago.
Adds: And that was BEFORE her campaign was in the hole, funds-wise. Now that's pretty sad, not paying when you have the money, let alone to keep
going across the country stiffing the little people as you go.
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reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 07:14 AM by grover
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As a former restaurant slave it really bit my butt when she did that photo-op with a waitress in a diner to highlight how hard it was for the average
person to make ends meet, she had lunch served her by the waitress, and then didn't tip.
Bad form really bad form.
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