Secret Film To Show Dolphin Slaughter To The World, page 2
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reply posted on 31-3-2008 @ 11:58 AM by NovusOrdoMundi
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So that means they need to be killed in the harshest way possible? Due to the mercury, they may not even be a very safe or smart thing to eat anyway. Maybe that's nature's way of telling us NO! Did anyone ever think of that?

Of course not, because it's a "cultural tradition" and these sorry disgraces for human beings use that excuse because they see dollar signs in front of it.

Your earlier post is a poor comparison. Sharks and other animals kill dolphins to SURVIVE. WE kill dolphins to make money. Dolphins aren't necessary for our survival, and even if they were, killing them in the most brutal disgusting ways we can think of isn't necessary for our survival.

Stop making excuses for these pathetic people. Their actions can't be defended.


reply posted on 31-3-2008 @ 12:05 PM by thought
Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi
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So that means they need to be killed in the harshest way possible? Due to the mercury, they may not even be a very safe or smart thing to eat anyway. Maybe that's nature's way of telling us NO! Did anyone ever think of that?

Of course not, because it's a "cultural tradition" and these sorry disgraces for human beings use that excuse because they see dollar signs in front of it.

Your earlier post is a poor comparison. Sharks and other animals kill dolphins to SURVIVE. WE kill dolphins to make money. Dolphins aren't necessary for our survival, and even if they were, killing them in the most brutal disgusting ways we can think of isn't necessary for our survival.

Stop making excuses for these pathetic people. Their actions can't be defended.


Arg. Poorly reasoned emotionalism. The risks of mercury toxicity are overblown. A huge percentage of what the Japanese eat is loaded with mercury because it comes from the sea. If mercury was really so bad all of Japan would be blathering idiots by now. And...why is this the harshest way possible? It's killing with a high degree of training and with specialized equipment to swiftly end the lives of these dolphins.

On the issue of necessity. No, it is not necessary for the sharks to kill dolphins. They could also kill fish or seals. However, they make dietary choices much in the same way the Japanese make dietary choices.


reply posted on 31-3-2008 @ 01:38 PM by Maxmars
I regret having taken this thread on after lunch. I'm feeling a little queasy right now.

My first reaction wasn't sadness, it was anger. Someone once asked me for proof that Dolphins were intelligent. I told them that 'proof' like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. I watch these slaughters and wonder, what would keep and intelligent species like the cetaceans from just killing every human they see in the water - who would expect less?

I am, however, hard-pressed to understand 'our' bias (and I admit freely that I am guilty of it.)

We seem to brutally mistreat very nearly every animal we consume. I understand that these creatures have 'been on the menu' in that neck of the woods for hundreds of years (if not thousands.) So how can we say this is 'barbaric'? I seem to recall a great many non-carnivorous members on the forum - so they can take the moral high-ground with near impunity, but I am a true omnivore, so I guess being upset over this makes me a hypocrite. Granted, I don't beat the living crap out of my food (at least not until it's dead) but what these folks are doing can't be called anything other than cruel and horrific, but is it any more so than boiling a live lobster?

I won't deny, even if the manner of their demise were somehow 'humane' I still wouldn't be comfortable with the idea of their consumption. I guess that makes me foolish from a logical perspective. In this regard, I relish being a fool.

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