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Originally posted by OhZone
Maxmars, You and others here are getting carried away there with irrational future scenarios of other government mandated actions. Why are you so fearful, get grip there.
Originally posted by OhZonehidatsa, You say that being human entitles them to live. Tell me why being human entitles anyone to financial support from another. Feeding off another is what parasites do. An indeed many of these people are parasites.
Originally posted by hidatsa
Originally posted by OhZone
Tell you what. Why don't you stop being coy. You don't want these people sterilised. You want them gone. Would you like to do the killing yourself or would you need some help?
Wow, I wish I had thought of that!
Originally posted by OhZone
the "model" needs to be changed, exactly how do you propose to do that? We apparently do not have the resources (human & financial) to take these people and their children to a higher level by education and job training.
I can also see that there are some who are basicly "feral people", and that nothing can change them.
Lots of ideas on this thread, most of them are not well thought out and are inapplicable to the situation. Many have gone on the defensive, identifying with the subject people. YOu need to go mingle with them. Likely you will never be the same again, as you will come away with mind blown, wondering how people could get that way. You might even wonder if they are really as human as they look.
Originally posted by OhZone
Many have gone on the defensive, identifying with the the subject people.
Originally posted by OhZone
YOu need to go mingle with them. Likely you will never be the same again, as you will come away with mind blown, wondering how people could get that way. You might even wonder if they are really as human as they look.
Originally posted by Jonar
The idea of eugenic's and such as noted is not new. The ida of abuse of government support is obviously not new either. The problem with government is allowing the support abuse to continue and placing limitations on it.
As for the breeding problem, sterilization is NO answer. And telling the population that you can only have so many kids is NO answer as you can see even China is giving loosening its rules after having limitations for awhile now.
If you want to start working on serious ways of cutting back on population control, then proper education regarding birth control needs to be undertaken and that means religion has got to stop getting in the mix. People have got to want to cut back of thier own choice.
Sterilzation was done back in the day, even here in the U.S. But it is always done for the wrong reasons. When are people going to realize that we really do not have the right to force our will upon others. It is always because, those who want to dominate think they have the right to rule.
Originally posted by dogbone
see the world for how it realy is.
Originally posted by dogbone
I for one think the guy is talking sense. Im sure he wasn't talking about a blanket steralisation for everyone on benefits, they'd obviously have to be some form of selection criteria. ive reead a lot of replies to this talking about human rights, freedom to have children etc etc. What a load of new age bull! What about the right of the child that will be born into a family that is only having it because mum and dad forgot to use contreception one drug enduced night. What about the quality of life the child is destined to have, being brought up on welfare and hand outs, ultimately growing up with the same twisted morals as its parents! And so the spiral pattern continues!
Originally posted by dogbone90% of people on benefits are on them because the are too lazy to work and believe that the worls owes them a living. Theyve grown up with both fat lazy hands held out for the next freeby!
Originally posted by dogbone
the mere fact that i have heard people basically saying if people aren't rich enough they shouldn't have kids is making me want to leave this site and never come back here again