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reply posted on 20-3-2008 @ 02:22 PM by biggie smalls
VIDEO: Bin Laden urges support for Iraq insurgency to help 'fellow Palestinians'

Bin Laden attacks EU over cartoons

Osama bin Laden has threatened the European Union with grave punishment over "insulting drawings" of the Prophet Muhammad as the Muslim world marked the prophet's birthday.

He says in an audio internet posting that the "wise men" of the European Union had gone "overboard in your unbelief and freed yourselves of the etiquettes of dispute and fighting and went to the extent of publishing these insulting drawings. This is the greatest misfortune and the most dangerous".



reply posted on 20-3-2008 @ 03:49 PM by bovarcher
Originally posted by RiotComing
Bin Laden was murdered (by Omar Sheikh). Benazir Bhutto said it on the David Frost show shortly before she was killed. You can check it out
here

...It is reasonable to suggest that part of the reason Bhutto was killed was because of her intention to 'out' the fate of Bin Laden to the public (there are other reasons too, but this is one of many). ...


Claims that OBL was murdered have been frequently discussed and debated on Al Jazeera news over the past couple of years, and in many other fora. Benazir Bhitto bought the mythology and repeated it not only here but in other interviews, particularly on Pakistani TV.

Problem is, no-one has any proof and there is no body, so the plain truth is that no-one knows. Saying you KNOW OBL is dead is like saying you KNOW Adolf Hitler is alive and well and living in Peru, when in fact you don't. It's important to separate what you know (i.e. you have a body in front of you, dental records that match, positive ID from a number of genetic indicators) and what you just BELIEVE or THINK YOU KNOW. There is a big difference.

Fact of the matter is, no-one knows if OBL is alive or dead. He is not old - it was/would have been his 51st birthday on 10 March, so he's still quite young in terms of normal human lifespan. He is known to have suffered a chronic kidney disease, possibly pyelo-nephritis, some years ago. He may be living quietly in semi-retirement, somewhere in northern Pakistan near the border with Afghanistan. There are thousands of tribal villages there and the remit of the Islamabad government does not in practice rule there. It's bandit country. He could easily live there quietly for 30 years with no public profile, and no-one outside would know.

So please, before posting with such confidence that 'OBL is dead' - let's have some proof. Without proof, the question remains open and the rest is just speculation with no value.


reply posted on 20-3-2008 @ 06:12 PM by imitator
www.cnn.com...
(CNN) -- Al-Jazeera broadcast on Thursday an audiotape on which a voice identified as Osama bin Laden declares "Iraq is the perfect base to set up the jihad to liberate Palestine."


Looks like Al-CIA to me... I wouldn't think Osama be running for a Presidential Campaign.

Doesn't this sound like a presidential slogan:
Osama bin Laden declares "Iraq is the perfect base"





[edit on 20-3-2008 by imitator]


reply posted on 20-3-2008 @ 08:52 PM by jetxnet
The UN is a joke. Saddam broke over 20 UN resolutions and trimmed millions of dollars off the Oil for Food program. He'd claim the US was killing 'thousands' of Iraqi children, when in effect, he shaving every extra dime off the program for years. Of course Clinton did nothing, the Inspectors were kicked out and Saddam was having a good time.

He was giving Russia and China Oil for weapons. Saddam killed more of his people then anyone, 5000 Kurds for some 'ethnic cleansing'.

He just gave the big boy on the block (US) the exuse he was looking for. It was a matter of time, and Saddam played the game very foolishly. Russia and China used him too ..they told him to let the US walk right in to Iraq and then set up and do Guerrilla warfare tactics to drag it out for years, thus trying to deplete US resources. China and Russia study all past US wars , to find out what the US is worst fighting against.

China came up with something (or subscribed to) something called Asymmetric Warfare. Defeating a superior high tech miliitary using smaller forces and Guerrillla warfare tactics.

China built Iraq's air defense network (called Tiger Song) using US fiber optics technology given to them by the Clinton administration. Before the bombing campeign, US sent the Tiger Song computer network a Virus, thus rendering much of it useless. China has since directed focus to Information Warfare tactics aimed at paralyzing US computer systems.

China doesn't have any Oil reserves so is moving in on Africa and securing relationships with Iran.


reply posted on 21-3-2008 @ 04:15 AM by biggie smalls
The Pope is afraid of Osama. I don't know why, but I guess he's as paranoid as most of us

Vatican Security Worries Over bin Laden Tape

The Vatican on Thursday rejected an audiotaped accusation from Osama bin Laden that Pope Benedict XVI was leading a “new Crusade” against Muslims, but Italian security officials were concerned about the threats included in Mr. bin Laden’s new message.

“These accusations are absolutely unfounded,” the Rev. Federico Lombardi, the pope’s chief spokesman, said in a telephone interview. “There is nothing new in this, and it doesn’t have any particular significance for us.”



[edit on 3/21/2008 by biggie smalls]


reply posted on 21-3-2008 @ 04:27 PM by deltaboy
reply to post by Agit8dChop



Easy to know when you have his supporters posting notices on Jihadi forums.



reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 12:28 AM by biggie smalls
Al Qaeda #2 says attack US, Israel

Al-Qaida deputy leader Ayman al-Zawahri is calling on Muslims to strike Israeli and American interests to avenge Israel's recent offensive in the Gaza Strip, according to a new audiotape.

In the 4-minute tape, posted on a Web site Monday, al-Zawahri accuses Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak of helping Israel in its offensive by sealing off the border between Egypt and Gaza.

He calls on Muslims to "strike the interests of the Jews, the Americans, and all of those who participated in the attack on the Muslims," and says attacks should not be limited to areas in Israel or the Palestinian territories.

The authenticity of the tape could not be independently verified but the voice sounded like al-Zawahri's on previous tapes confirmed to have come from him. The tape also was posted on an Islamic militant Web site commonly used by al-Qaida.


I thought Zawahri was dead

Unconfirmed reports from Pakistani and U.S. intelligence sources indicate a CIA airstrike was carried out against a compound in Pakistan which contained Ayman al-Zawahiri, al Qaeda's number two in command, and four other unnamed senior al Qaeda leaders. Eighteen people are believed to have been killed in the strike.

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