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Formula 1 2008 Championship

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posted on Feb, 22 2008 @ 05:18 AM

Formula 1 2008 World Championship

  • Teams and drivers
  • Calendar & Circuits
  • What's new

Teams and drivers

BMW Sauber F1 Team
Nick Heidfeld[33]
Robert Kubica


Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro

Kimi Räikkönen
Felipe Massa


Force India Formula One Team

Adrian Sutil
Giancarlo fisichella


Honda Racing F1 Team

Jenson Button
Rubens Barrichello


Vodafone McLaren Mercedes

Lewis Hamilton
Heikki Kovalainen


Red Bull Racing

David Coulthard
Mark Webber


ING Renault F1 Team

Fernando Alonso
Nelson Piquet Jr.


Super Aguri F1

Takuma sato
Anthony Denis Davidson


Panasonic Toyota Racing

Jarno Trulli
Timo Glock


Scuderia Toro Rosso-Ferrari

Sébastien Bourdais
Sebastian Vettel


AT&T Williams

Nico Rosberg
Kazuki Nakajima



Melbourne - 2008 FORMULA 1 ING AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX - 16 Mar 2008
Kuala Lumpur - 2008 FORMULA 1 PETRONAS MALAYSIAN GRAND PRIX - 23 Mar 2008
Bahrain - 2008 FORMULA 1 GULF AIR BAHRAIN GRAND PRIX - 06 Apr 2008
Monte Carlo - FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DE MONACO 2008 - 25 May 2008
Montreal - FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DU CANADA 2008 - 08 Jun 2008
Magny-Cours - FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DE FRANCE 2008 - 22 Jun 2008
Silverstone - 2008 FORMULA 1 SANTANDER BRITISH GRAND PRIX - 06 Jul 2008


Budapest - FORMULA 1 ING MAGYAR NAGYDIJ 2008 - 03 Aug 2008

Valencia - 2008 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE - 24 Aug 2008

Spa-Francorchamps - 2008 FORMULA 1 ING BELGIAN GRAND PRIX - 07 Sep 2008


Singapore - 2008 FORMULA 1 SINGTEL SINGAPORE GRAND PRIX - 28 Sep 2008


Shanghai - 2008 FORMULA 1 SINOPEC CHINESE GRAND PRIX - 19 Oct 2008

São Paulo - FORMULA 1 GRANDE PREMIO DO BRASIL 2008 - 02 Nov 2008

What's new

1 - Spa-Franchorchamps circuit re-introduced.
2 - Valencia circuit
3 - Singapore: first night race in the history of the formula 1
4 - Regulation: very important changes:

9.3Traction control
No car may be equipped with a system or device which is
capable of preventing the driven wheels from spinning under power or of
compensating for excessive throttle demand by the driver.
Any device or system which notifies the driver of the onset of wheel spin
is not permitted.

[edit on 22/2/2008 by internos]

posted on Feb, 22 2008 @ 07:33 AM
I thought the wheel spats on the MP' at Valencia were very interesting and quite different than that of the equine prancers. What can one say about Kaz Nak finishing on top at Barcelona? Bravo. Heikki and LH? Fast, just fast. Stepney in front front of the Italian judges. Brawny workin' hard on '09. Gonna be be a good one.

Please, I pray to the Gods of the Stoned-Eccles - GIVE US BACK OUR SLICKS!!!! GIVE US BACK OUR OWN ECUs. Put a NASCAR "ace" in a mid-tier team so I can laugh again or put "the" Schu' in the worst NASCAR team so I can laugh in the other direction. For God sake someone give Sebby Loeb a ride in F1. Get young Stoner in a Supercar and then F1.

Will someone please turn on Kimi's "smile" program or reboot his firmware. Please make Hobbs say "tire clag" every broadcast and more RPM (racing per Matchett), drop the Yanks from the broadcast commentary altogether.

Alonso? What Alonso? Oh... Renault. No podiums for you!

No Minardi's.... Force. That oughta make the chicanes move at least a few K faster. Hail bail testers.

I was thinkin' F1 was never to be discussed in the company of... you know "them".

18 and 2 in Fontana.


[edit on 22-2-2008 by V Kaminski]

posted on Feb, 22 2008 @ 07:48 AM
reply to post by internos

Tremendous work. I will be referring to this thread all season long.

I am amazed at the work you do. And I thought you just looked at Mars/Moon pictures!

Silly me.


posted on Feb, 22 2008 @ 08:28 AM
Sadly, there will be no US Grand Prix this year. Ecclestone (blecch) didn't think the Indianapolis Motor Speedway "did enough" to promote the event. Ironically, Tony George traveled to Europe last fall to receive an award for doing the best job among all the F1 venues for promotion.

Go figure.

The general belief is that F1 will be back at IMS, and locally, we'll be very glad to have them.

posted on Feb, 22 2008 @ 01:35 PM

Originally posted by V Kaminski

Will someone please turn on Kimi's "smile" program or reboot his firmware.

Hi Vic: you post is funny, but you made some good points, IMHO:
Kimi's nature is so, he's nordic, and this facet is discussed even in Italy.
Well, i'm a Ferrari fan, and i judge the driver by what he does on the track, no matter if he doesn't smile even after a victory
Besides, it seems the he's learning to smile: Emilia is a hospitale region,
the people is courteous and gracious, so even a ice cube like him will, soon or later, "thaw"...

reply to post by Becker44

Thank you for your post: much appreciated

I always appreciate your posts too

I'll be glad to share opinions with you about this season, hoping that we'll attend an amazing season.
I guess that given the new rules, we have good chances to look at spectacular races

Besides, despite many people don't thik so, i guess that this championship will be more or less balanced.

Originally posted by yeahright
Sadly, there will be no US Grand Prix this year.
Ecclestone (blecch) didn't think the Indianapolis Motor Speedway "did enough" to promote the event.
Ironically, Tony George traveled to Europe last fall to receive an award for doing the best job among
all the F1 venues for promotion.
Go figure.
The general belief is that F1 will be back at IMS, and locally, we'll be very glad to have them.

And this is very sad. If USA haven't the chance to look at the races, i don't see how the people there could appreciate the many qualities of the present F1: it's general consensus that it isn't much appreciated in the US, but who knows F1 also knows that that's not true.
I think that the interest is something that needs to be entertained.
But the problem # 1 that we have is Mr. Ecclestone: he's not a manager: hes a howner.
He created a circus that has many ununderstandable facets: he discussed about safety but in the meantime he deleted Indy from the list and he kept Montreal, that has much more issues, by the safety view, than almost all the other circuits.
And by the way, what gave Formula 1 to Indy? Do you remember the pathetic race with six cars because Michelin had safety issues at curve # 13?
Besides, given that Montecarlo is always the most boring race, he added another circuit inside a town.
He talks in a way and he acts on the contrary. I'm even convinced that he doesn't love this sport at all.
Money talks and Bernie goes where there is more money, who cares if a race is attended just by two camels?
Too sad that the circuits are not a matter entirely handled by the F.I.A., but so it goes.

[edit on 22/2/2008 by internos]

posted on Feb, 22 2008 @ 01:45 PM
reply to post by internos

The 6 car race was definitely a black eye, no question. The Speedway got beaten up prety good for that one, even though the did the best they could to explain they just run the venue - Bernie runs the show.

The cool thing about the Grand Prix is the international support. People from all over the world (and BIG spenders) came in for that one. You've got some hardcore race fans in the US that appreciate Formula 1. It sure doesn't garner anything close to the NASCAR support or even the open wheel stuff (which by the way is on the verge of reconsolidating). But it draws a crowd here.

I hope it comes back.

posted on Feb, 22 2008 @ 02:26 PM
reply to post by internos

Some say Kimi can be quite a party animal... should see him drive rally... heikki too. Yup, got a wack of Nordic friends and without exception and sometimes without expression all are fun. Dry-ice humour.

I'd like to see F1 at the Glen and Road America... Elkhart Lake. Now if IRL and Chump car can get together... and turn left and right...

Who am I kidding... I won't be happy unless there's an unlimited series... like Can-Am. Nothing quite like seeing a McLaren or UOP or the old Chapparal Vacuum Cleaner crest the ridge on the old-old Andretti straight at Mosport at 200MPH catch air and slam it into corner eight.

Oops... Fontana's on SpeedTV or TVUnetworks... Montoya has gray hair. Hahahaha. Light rain... might get some laps in.


[edit on 22-2-2008 by V Kaminski]

posted on Feb, 22 2008 @ 03:39 PM
Well, let's take a look at the first Race of the season

Race Date: 16 Mar 2008
Number of Laps: 58
Circuit Length: 5.303 km
Race Distance: 307.574 km
Lap Record: 1:24.125 - M Schumacher (2004)

F.I.A. Circuit diagram

Fri 14 March 2008
Friday Practice 1 10:00 - 11:30
Friday Practice 2 14:00 - 15:30

Sat 15 March 2008
Saturday Practice 11:00 - 12:00

Qualifying 14:00
Sun 16 March 2008

Race 15:30

Circuit's official website


2008 F1 Conditions of Entry (59KB, .PDF file | Right click and "save target as ... ")

2008 F1 Conditions of Sale (46KB .PDF file | Right click and "save target as ... ")

Australian Grands Prix Act (322KB .PDF file | Right click and "save target as ... ")

2008 Ticketing Flyer (1842KB | Right click and "save target as ... ")

2007 Australia Technical News

2007 Australia Gallery

2007 Australia Results

1/6/Kimi Räikkönen/Ferrari/58/1:25:28.770/1 10
2/1/Fernando Alonso/McLaren-Mercedes/58/+7.2 secs/2 8
3/2/Lewis Hamilton/McLaren-Mercedes/58/+18.5 secs/4 6
4/9/Nick Heidfeld/BMW/58/+38.7 secs/3 5
5/3/Giancarlo Fisichella/Renault/58/+66.4 secs/6 4
6/5/Felipe Massa/Ferrari/58/+66.8 secs/22 3
7/16/Nico Rosberg/Williams-Toyota/57/+1 Lap/12 2
8/11/Ralf Schumacher/Toyota/57/+1 Lap/9 1
9/12/Jarno Trulli/ Toyota/57/+1 Lap/8/
10/4/Heikki Kovalainen/Renault/57/+1 Lap/13/
11/8/Rubens Barrichello/Honda/ 57/+1 Lap/16/
12/22/Takuma Sato/Super Aguri-Honda 57/+1 Lap/10/
13/15/Mark Webber/Red Bull-Renault/57/+1 Lap/7/
14/18/Vitantonio Liuzzi/STR-Ferrari/57/+1 Lap/19/
15/7/Jenson Button/Honda/ 57/+1 Lap/14/
16/23/Anthony Davidson/ Super Aguri-Honda 56/+2 Laps/ 11/
17/20/Adrian Sutil/ Spyker-Ferrari/56/+2 Laps/ 20/
Ret 17/Alexander Wurz/Williams-Toyota/48/Accident/15/
Ret 14/David Coulthard/Red Bull-Renault/48/Accident/18/
Ret 10/Robert Kubica/BMW/36/Gearbox/5/
Ret 19/Scott Speed/STR-Ferrari/28/Wheel/17/
Ret 21/Christijan Albers/Spyker-Ferrari/10/Accident/21

Live timing


Melbourne GP 2007 - Highlights (pump down the volume

[edit on 22/2/2008 by internos]

posted on Feb, 22 2008 @ 04:24 PM
reply to post by internos

Nicely done!

F1 gets about as much attention in the states as Hockey (my 2 favorite sports).

Thanks a bunch for this much appreciated thread

posted on Feb, 22 2008 @ 04:57 PM
Welly lad! Steady-on! Yeah, this gonna be fun. Lemme see what I got layin' around... should have some Adelaide... oh it's Nelson Senior, perfect in the Renault! mp2... Yikes! That's old... I'll run it through an encoder. Too right! Junior Peek, too cool! As the wee Scot of tartan helmet says, "It's a great, great day for motor racing!" Lemme see what I can find.

Is everyone on rotary Sachs-type dampers? Does everyone use the little single front leaf spring like Ferrari? What was your favorite "rad" F1 sled? Mine were the Tyrell 6 wheeler and Sir Frank's hex-wheeler (that never competed). Tazio.... yes, this will be most fun!!!

Cool vid... excellent thread internos. Young mister Hamilton vs Kimi. Simply fantastic. Finest pilots in the finest rides... what's not to like? LH, P1 season's end.


posted on Feb, 22 2008 @ 08:04 PM
Caution: strong language in the following clip's music. F and S said once.

The MP2 I captured last century is proving a biatch to convert with WMencoder 7 or 9. I'll get a bud on it. Oh, I correct myself, the senior Piquet was in a Lotus rather than a Renault. I apologize to the Chapman clan. This clip was not made by me. The stuff I have of the American street circuits is well... it's the scariest fun one can have while wearing clothes. Cheever just dangling in the rain. Keke at Dallas was cool.

Schu' test... info


[edit on 22-2-2008 by V Kaminski]

posted on Feb, 23 2008 @ 12:59 AM
reply to post by V Kaminski

Great stuff Vic those were races....
I guess that this one is one of the best, if not the best, overtaking ever:

Piquet X Senna - Hungaroring 1986

posted on Feb, 23 2008 @ 07:43 AM
reply to post by internos

I loved to watch Senna pull the trigger for qualifying. The drift out of that corner was awsome. Rarely bested, Senna. I have some favorite overtaking that's a bit "old", the 1979 french GP, Gilles vs Rene... watch it's spectacular. Hammer and tong. Shoulda seen Gilles race sleds...



EDIT: RANT MODE ON - Target aquired, Champ Car and IRL are merging. No more race in Toronto. Fine. They can't afford to race in the 5th largest market in North America with the full-house fan support since '86? Tax breaks out the wazoo? Fine, screw you.

There are other venues being spoken of... perhaps a type of facility unknown currently in motorsports and automotive research anywhere, maybe two. The notion's been around since about '97. You see we have winter... that's part of the cool... in the summer track temperatures vary wildly. We make good hockey rinks... our roads cracks because of temperature fluctuations. Calgary and Toronto are perfect. Wink. It's "just" talk.

I used to tolerate the 2nd classness (business practices) of IRL and Champ Car or whatever they're calling themselves this week... every sanctioning body has it's bully-boy promotors and agendas... they all have their Czars. They should have listened to Robin Miller a decade ago... I'm done with these particular idiots until they get a better business headspace in Indy and elsewhere. The George family used to be so cool... same with the France's. I view the current leadership in those crews as lacking and monopolistic. Nice private empire girls... enjoy it.

Outlaw turbines... no all wheel drive... tire rules... design limiting regulations... there was a time when American racecraft and engineering were the best. That development stopped.

Glad we got F1... I'd be just as happy if NASCAR "racing" stays home and doesn't "race" here but they already bought CASCAR so it's an All-American abortion now. NHRA... sold! Meh, who cares. It's all so dilute...

F1 despite it's flaws has something no other has... the best of the best planet wide.


Kimi quoted, "he would only keep racing as long as he enjoyed driving, and not because he wants to win any specific number of races or titles."

Yup, didn't crack a smile. Bet he was smilin large inside. Some of the characters in F1 are a study in genius. So many interesting people in interesting careers and situations in F1. Hot house. Coulthard has a wit. Flavio? Jarno is cool, same with the old boy from Brazil. Lotsa new blood... gonna be a great season.


It rained in circles in California. So no NASCAR qualifying. "Racing". Wink.

[edit on 23-2-2008 by V Kaminski]

posted on Feb, 23 2008 @ 07:25 PM
reply to post by internos

Great thread Infernos; my money will be on Hamilton this year for sure.

GO GO GO Hamilton!!!!!

EDIT: Oh and just to add Michael Scumacher was and always will the best F1 driver in the world; I loved his stunt with the taxi; superb.

[edit on 23-2-2008 by WeAreOne]

posted on Feb, 23 2008 @ 08:05 PM
reply to post by WeAreOne

I think these will bring a smile...

Kimi smiles...


Almost have that in-car street circuit stuff ready... I agree; LH. What's up with the rad engine cowl on the RedBulls? Are they "leaning" on it in corners like a WoO leans on it's billboards? Or is it to make it more stable with a short wheelbase? Looks "different".


[edit on 23-2-2008 by V Kaminski]

posted on Feb, 23 2008 @ 09:36 PM
reply to post by V Kaminski

Thanks for the Vids Kaminski, I will check them out in the morning though as me pooped out and its gone half 3 here, cheers very much though.

posted on Feb, 23 2008 @ 10:13 PM
reply to post by WeAreOne

Thank you, WeAreOne:
Lewis surprised me on 2007, despite i was aware that he was very talented:
it's never easy to get used to a F1 the first season that you drive one:
but Lewis not just got used to soon, he also finished the Campionship in second place because some "odd" "coincidences" in the last two races: i couldn't believe to what i was looking at during Brazilian GP: it looked like he deliberately decided to loose the championship, (and given the circumstancies, frankly, i cannot rule it out at 100%):
an italian Journalist, on, the most important italian sports newspaper, wrote a very interesting article, some days before the Brazilian GP:
basically, he made some speculation about a possible agreement between F.I.A. and McLaren:
something like "we won't punish your drivers but you have to loose even the driver's championship".
I know, those were mere speculations, it was like a joke, but he was right at least about the final result, that was unexpected at all. I think that it has been just a coincidence, but many times i thought about that article ...
Well this doeasn't mean that Kimi didn't deserve the final victory, but who knows what really happened.. :shk:

Vic, thank you for the vids: one of the few commercial that i like;
on 2007, Mercedes made something alike with Hamilton & Alonso (and Hakkinen):

but the funniest is the third one that you posted, IMHO

what about Senna at 1984 Monaco Grand Prix ?

Results from the 1984 Formula One Monaco Grand Prix held at Monaco on June 3, 1984.
Prost led the race, run in heavy rain, from pole position. He was passed on lap nine by Nigel Mansell,
leading a Grand Prix for the first time, when Prost was delayed by Corrado Fabi's stalled Brabham just
before the tunnel. Mansell pulled away from Prost at around two seconds per lap, before going off six laps later on the run up to Casino Square, damaging his car and retiring from the race.
Prost assumed the lead again, now from Ayrton Senna, who, in his rookie season in a generally uncompetitive Toleman car, was rapidly catching him. Clerk of the Course Jacky Ickx decided that conditions were too poor for the race to continue. The red flag to stop the race was shown at the end
of the 32nd lap. Senna passed Prost's slowing McLaren at the finish line, but according to the rules,
the positions counted are those from the previous lap 31, at which point Prost was still leading.
The stoppage was controversial, as it benefitted Alain Prost with a Porsche-designed engine, and was made by Ickx, a Porsche employee in sports car racing
It has been remarked that had the race been allowed to continue until 75% of the laps, full points would have been awarded and Prost could have had 6 points from a 2nd place instead of 4.5 points from the win. Ironically Prost would lose the championship to Niki Lauda by half a point.

Today it would be impossible such a feat: that was an unforgettable race.

Ed.: Source

[edit on 23/2/2008 by internos]

posted on Feb, 23 2008 @ 10:54 PM
I got that MP2 thing done but the format is a bit big... itr refuses to convert to anything but mpg... it'll be two files of about 15 minutes total of some neat in-car. Tomorrow.

If the is a particular "aspect" of "The Thrill In Brazil"... I have that around somewhere. Politics within the culture and the "social engineering" that the highest levels of the sport is famously known for...

I liked when Nigel "came to America"... even on the ovals... Milwaukee, yeah. His lads are ready.

Senna, pulling the trigger... where else?

Ayrton vs Schu' 10 years apart in Japan.


[edit on 23-2-2008 by V Kaminski]

posted on Feb, 24 2008 @ 12:47 AM




posted on Feb, 24 2008 @ 05:36 PM
Fontana, green flag 6:32PM Eastern.
A couple WilliamsF1 pieces, Kaz Nak

The Making Of 2008 - Part 1

The Making Of 2008 - Part 2

Gordon to the front strong, 24, 48, 20... track's green

18 and 2 on lap 250,


[edit on 24-2-2008 by V Kaminski]

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