Ronald Weinland (nothing yet...)

Ronald's failures
1) Last Pentecost Christ would return........................................failed
2) This entire year would be the DOTL ( Day of the Lord )............failed
3) Latter 6 months would be the DOTL......................................failed
4) Between Passover and Pentecost would be the DOTL.............failing

Ronald Weinland as always, makes it up as he goes along.

With each failure, he makes up something new.....calls it a new "truth".
PKGers swallow this poison, believe it, don't question whether Ronald Weinland MIGHT be a false prophet.

I wish a single PKGer would explain how Ronald Weinland qualifies as being a true prophet?

One day they will have to stand before God and do this.

God will ask them to name a single prophecy that was 100% explicit in all its details and that came true.

The ONLY passing grade for a true prophet is 100% of his prophecies come true, not this "progressive truth" nonsense. "Progressive truth" is something that is "true" until time shows it was a lie, and you have to substitute a new lie for the "truth". How utterly ridiculous and how brilliant of Ronald to call these lies "progressive truth", do you think God works this way?????

Not a single prophecy Ronald Weinland has spoken has come true, and yet they believe Ron will lead them into the Kingdom? It's going to be a sad day when they find out what will really happen.

A prophet that does not speak a single true prophecy is stone cold blind.

See what Christ says about the blind leading the blind.

Ronald Weinland the false prophet said in an email to his ministers ” Laura and I ...we want to see you at the end of all this (no matter “when” that is), …”

Nice of Ronald Weinland to slip in this minor psychological preparation for the next failed timeline.

Originally posted by worried08
Did anyone seem to notice that RW wears $500 suits?
and let's not forget those cufflinks... yea, keep titithing.

ronaldweinland.info...

UPDATE On June 13, 2012, Ronald Weinland was convicted of 5 counts of criminal tax evasion. The charges in the indictment included "using COG [church] contributions for personal use and not reporting the funds as income on his tax return".

Hmmm, think this could be how he affords those? Nah. He's a man of God, he wouldn't do that.

Ronald Weinland, author of "2008 God's Final Witness", claims to be a Prophet of the God of Abraham and one of the Two End-Time Witnesses prophesied in Revelation 11. After the failures of his prophecies for specific dates such as April 17, 2008 for the beginning of the Great Tribulation leading to the return of Jesus Christ in 2011, Weinland changed to a new timeline that restarted the Great Tribulation on December 14, 2008 with the return of Jesus on the eve of May 27, 2012. . Ron has designated his wife Laura as the other Witness and ordained her as a Prophetess just below him in the Government of his church.

His whole "church" seems to be a way to reel in the suckers and funnel their money into his bank accounts. Very handy, his wife being the other "witness", huh?

Ronald has all but said that Jesus will not return this coming Pentecost.

He has conditioned his followers to accept failure after failure, thus trained, this new failure will be nothing new or surprising. They are conditioned to it, so the shock will not be as severe.

Because they are accustomed to being Ronald Weinland's slaves, they will not want to escape.

The original Israelites were the same, they were so accustomed to bondage in Egypt many did not want to leave. Even when freed, many wanted to turn back. It's a pity the PKGers can not learn from their lesson.

5 weeks to go.

Ronald Weinland originally said the WHOLE of this past year would be the DOTL (Day of the Lord).
Than nothing happened so he decided it was only half of the year.
Than nothing happened so he decided it was between passover and pentecost.
Nothing is happening. Nothing will happen.

Get the picture?

The sign of the Sun turning black and Moon turning red, was supposed to happen at start of DOTL.
It didn't happen so Ron gave this utterly moronic explanation to try and explain that away.
The Sun/Moon sign has not happened, it will not happen until the Great Tribulation is completed.
The Great Tribulation did not happen, so Ron gave this ridiculous excuse that it was because of a 2 day fast.
Even though MANY prophecies in the OT clearly state God WOULD NOT ABORT THIS PUNISHMENT UNTIL THE WORLD REPENTED. But Ron had his church believe that God changed his mind, because NOTHING happened, so instead of saying he was a false prophet, he had to go with this other excuse.

Ronald Weinland has some truths like the Sabbath, and the Holy Days.

He baited his hook with this truth, so his followers then expect the rest of what he says to be true, time has clearly shown it is not.

Let us compare what my position is (which is the biblical position), with that of PKGers.

I agree with the bible, the bible has made very plain statements, I am in full agreement with it, I do not twist it, or say it means something else.
(I have provided the scripture references to these many times over)


Here is what the bible says about the two witnesses.

1) The two witnesses will be two men
2) The two witnesses will breath literal fire
3) The two witnesses will slay their enemies who try to stop them or hurt them
4) The two witnesses will turn rivers to blood
5) The two witnesses will call down droughts
6) The two witnesses will call down many plagues
7) The two witnesses will be killed

But what is the position of a PKGer? What is Ronald Weinland's position?
Their position is that NONE of the above means what it says, this is the classical approach of all false prophets.

So which position should you choose?
The one that agrees with the bible? And that God meant what he said, and said what he meant?
Or the position that the bible didn't mean what it said?

Some amusing history for PKGer’s who forget (or most likely never knew).

Ronald Weinland knew that the bible prophecies states that BEFORE the Day of the Lord starts (it basically signals the start of it), that there is the Sun and Moon sign that occurs. The Sun turns black, and the Moon turns blood red.

Since this did not happen, Ronald came up with the ridiculous explanation….

There are 2 main verses that state…(paraphrasing)
The sun/moon sign will occur BEFORE the Day of the Lord.

So Ron tries to explain it this way….

The sun/moon sign is the pre-Face of the Day of the Lord….(of course preface still means before in this context)

But Ron tries to weasel out an explanation and says it is the “Face” of the DOTL, in other words, it does not necessary mean BEFORE in any chronological sense.

But of course even this did not happen (nor will it, at this time).

Any PKGers reading this…go and ask Ron, WHY THIS SIGN HAS NOT OCCURRED.

Ronald Weinland's new post of lies....

Ronald's latest post is so absurd, yet the PKGer's still remain.

According to Ronald, Trumpets 1-5 have already blown.

He also said the Trumpets are out of order, and that the order can't be determined,
Ron Quote: "one cannot sit down and put these [the trumpets] together in any kind of order, "

So...Ron claims there is no order to these trumpets....let's see if this is true.

There are 3 Woes

1st Woe = 5th Trumpet
2nd Woe = 6th Trumpet
3rd Woe = 7th Trumpet

Rev 9:12 The first woe is past. Behold, AFTER these things yet come two woes.
Rev 11:14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

The first woe occurs THEN AFTER THAT the second woe occurs
THEN AFTER THAT the third woe occurs.
So the final three trumpets 5,6,7, ALL OCCUR IN SEQUENTIAL ORDER.

Ron does say, the 1st Trumpet was blown, and that that was first, and the last Trumpet, the 7th Trumpet will be blown last. (Even Ron is not dumb enough to put the 7th Trumpet out of order)

Ron Quote: "God has not revealed when the trumpets are blown, except for the first and the last."

So we now have the 1st Trumpet as blown first
The last trumpet as blown last, or the 7th Trumpet.

So altogether we have 1,5,6,7 Trumpets blown in order as proven by the bible

We also have this.

Rev 8:13 And I saw and I heard one angel flying in mid-heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe! Woe! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth, from the rest of the voices of the trumpet of the three angels being about to sound!

We already established trumpets 5,6,7 being in order.

But this verse also shows that these LAST 3 TRUMPETS sequentially follow AFTER the first 4 trumpets.

So Trumpets 5,6,7 only get blown AFTER Trumpets 1-4.

Since the first Trumpet is first, and Ron agrees with that, the second Trumpet MUST be next, otherwise the fist trumpet is not the first trumpet.

So now, from the bible we have Trumpets 1,2,5,6,7 being blown in sequential order
The only "ambiguous" Trumpets are Trumpets 3 and 4.

Ronald tries to persuade the readers that these trumpets are blown, but we do not see the results of them yet.

This is sheer absurdity.

Rev_12:11 And they overcame him [Satan] because of the blood of the Lamb, and because of the word of their testimony. And they did not love their soul until death.

The TRUE SAINTS give a testimony. Not just The Two Witnesses.

So if Ronald Weinland is one of the Two Witnesses, and Ron's church is the true church.

Then why haven't the "saints" in his church given ANY TESTIMONY?

That is what the bible says that they do.

But no, they do not, they can not, because the reality is that there words would not stand the test.

Thus they can not be true saints. As they are not fulfilling prophecy.

Been watching.

Where's the supporters Doctorex and others who used to be such awesome supporters of this fraud? Have they really repented or seen the light?

Ron is now not just a false prophet and a liar but has shown himself to be an absolute lunatic

reply to post by SirPaulMuaddib



He's grasping at straws and somehow has a group of people mesmerized.

Maybe he actually is just 'evil' and has a supernatural ability to control people. I don't mean he' the antichrist or anything because he has no real public presence, ability or supernatural ability, but still an evil puppet none the less?

Here are some statements regarding the trumpets Ronald Weinland has made
"all 7 trumpets are blown…"

"we don’t know if they are blown"

"we don’t know the order they are blown in"

"we know the order of first and last trumpets"

"trumpets 1-5 have been blown"

"we don’t see the effect of the trumpets that are blown yet."

As you can see, Ronald Weinland can not discern up from down.
Is God unable to guide his leading servants? With about 3 weeks left, is God unable to convince, inform, lead His end time servant into understanding?

Does the above chaotic uncertain babble, sound like it's inspired by the Mind of God?

Or does it sound like confusion?

reply to post by MadMax7


He's being led by the nose by demons.

According to Ronald Weinland the 3 1/2 years of The Great Tribulation came and went. It started in 2008 and ended about a year ago. And his follower didn't laugh and spit in his face for such a lie.

Newflash:
Saturday, May 18, 2013 16:31 UTC

Is NOT the date for the Second Coming.

There are MANY crystal clear and plain bible verse that show why this is not so.

"Ramona Weinland, Scott and Kris Cameron have chosen to leave the Church of God "

Ramona is Ronald Weinland's mother. She finally realizes her son is a false prophet.

Others are leaving false prophet Ron's church as well, as the third failed return of Jesus is immanent.


Here is a short list of those who have left PKG

Ramona Weinland, Ron’s own mother
Kris Cameron, Ron’s sister
Scott Cameron, Ron’s brother in law
Ralph Dowd, long time member
April Combs, long time member
Hope Henson, long time member
Donna Kautz, long time member
Chris Little, Ron’s son-in-law

Ron's last post was so long I thought Christ might come back before I had finished reading it! I almost fell asleep which is what I am sure most of his flock do during sermons...or maybe not seeing as he'snot the one giving them anymore.



But what will Ron say when the latest date expires in a week... what was the date? There has been so many I've forgotten the latest one... but don't worry , there will be another coming soon...!!!.

What happens if no trumpets are blown and it turns out to be saxophones or bagpipes instead?

Originally posted by SirPaulMuaddib
"Ramona Weinland, Scott and Kris Cameron have chosen to leave the Church of God "

Ramona is Ronald Weinland's mother. She finally realizes her son is a false prophet.

Others are leaving false prophet Ron's church as well, as the third failed return of Jesus is immanent.


Here is a short list of those who have left PKG

Ramona Weinland, Ron’s own mother
Kris Cameron, Ron’s sister
Scott Cameron, Ron’s brother in law
Ralph Dowd, long time member
April Combs, long time member
Hope Henson, long time member
Donna Kautz, long time member
Chris Little, Ron’s son-in-law

edit on 29-4-2013 by SirPaulMuaddib because: (no reason given)

Long time supporters on ATS of Weinland.... Spaznotz and Doctorex do not seem to be active on ATS anymore so they may have seen the light too?

reply to post by MadMax7


Ron has a lot of free time in the pen.

Originally posted by SirPaulMuaddib
reply to post by MadMax7

 

Ron has a lot of free time in the pen.

Yeah... an awful lot of it. He probably sees himself like Paul...quite ironic when he's supposed to be the the last Elijah doing wonders and miracles.