Tamil historical records officially documents Lemuria’s existence

While the area between SE Asia and Australia was above sea level... the rise at the end of the last ice age was as much as 70 feet

which is huge India and local islands would have had plenty of land and in fact the whole shorline all the way to se asia wud have been connected...

Not so much a matter of... mtns, but...beaches going underwater...

add even 10 ft to our worlds coast lines and rivers today and see how many cities you have left... very few...

Atlantis lemuria... there could have been, as many nations around the world as there are right now... if you added that much of a sea level rise... Every great city in the world would be underwater...

almost every real city at all in fact would vanish...

what you would have left, would never survive 10,000 years not even close...

Anyone ever see the special "After Man"

It stated that... in 10,000 yrs the last thing recognizable left of human civilization would be... the Hoover Dam and it would break into rubble around that time... all skyscrapers would have fallen, all houses burnt erouded, glass flowed back into it's elements, cars rusted and vanished...

Only some plastics, warped and deformed into ...kind of marbles would be around and...unrecognizeable either...

and... 10,000 years... is 1,500 less than our time since the last ice age ended...

So, knowing the scope of sea level rise... I don't believe in Atlantis or Lemuria... per say, to look for a speific nation, but the ruins are under the water around the whole globe off of our shores...

all we have are strange holes in the ground where reactors melted down... and giant blocks of stone off our coasts

But i'm pretty sure we have been here before

However

This idea depends on these people NEVER going past the present tide mark-because they left nothing behind. I can just see a culture based on never going over seventy high-ever! The lack of any evidence of these cities is what makes their existence, although probable at present only possible.

Modern and ancient cities would show up quite well after 10,000 years. You can determine this by looking at what we can find now. The amount of stuff civilizations leave in the ground in amazing. If you go to the Middle East and walk around you will note something, virtually everywhere-pottery shards. (and now days plastic bags and water bottles)

Stone tools and pottery shards last until the ground is subducted into the earth and that takes hundreds of millions of years.

If there had been large civilizations they would be easily detected. What we may find in the future are smaller regional cities.

reply to post by Hanslune


What you say may or may not be true. The pottery shards you are referring to would need to be dated to know for sure either way.

That 'Life After People' documentary referred to above was fairly convincing. While I cannot vouch for the accuracy of its research and the validity of its information, i can certainly tell you that it made a strong case.

It highlighted very well how nature goes into overdrive and starts to do its thing, breaking down the remnants of man without even raising a sweat - almost as if it were designed to do so.

If you haven't seen 'Life After People' i strongly recommend it, is very interesting when viewed in the context of past civilizations

Howdy Srsen

What you say may or may not be true. The pottery shards you are referring to would need to be dated to know for sure either way.

Hans: they have been, there are specialists who know pottery, they can tell from looking at a shard who (culture) made it, how it was made and when. There are no vast collections of mystery shards where no one knows where they come from or that might date x year far in the past. When one does surveys over a countryside where a civilization existed you find hundreds if not thousands of sites. Not one site has been found of these missing civilizations. Does that mean we won't find one in the future? No we might, its certainly possible, but at the present none exist.

That 'Life After People' documentary referred to above was fairly convincing. While I cannot vouch for the accuracy of its research and the validity of its information, i can certainly tell you that it made a strong case.

Hans: I've seen it twice now. You are failing to understand what it was telling you. Things, structures fall apart but the various parts of that structure-the rubble remains and the "damage" to the land remains also.

It highlighted very well how nature goes into overdrive and starts to do its thing, breaking down the remnants of man without even raising a sweat - almost as if it were designed to do so.

Yep its breaks down large structures into their components, refined glass, plastics, brick, concrete, speciality metals - all of which survive. How long do you think jewelry lasts? The stones in a diamond ring on a gold band?

If you haven't seen 'Life After People' i strongly recommend it, is very interesting when viewed in the context of past civilizations

Hans: As I stated above I've seen it, twice. You are taking from it a message it didn't mean to send. Large scale structures collapse but the materials remain.

How long does a common fired red brick last?

A piece of tinted window glass?

The rotator blade from an insinkerator?

Pottery?

Plastic' some degrades quickly some doesn't

Cut gem stones

Stone? Where are the stone anchors for ships?

All of those are part of modern buildings, ancient stuff made out of stone, mud brick, pottery, charcoal, and bone also survives, especially when you disturb the ground - the ground "retains" that damage. You can see post holes from tens of thousands of years ago.

Map of the indian ocean ( Sunken ancient land so called ' Lemuria ' aka' Mother Land..!






...isn't that obviously

I certainly believe that the techtonic plates can rise and fall by kilometers either way, during phases of earth expansion - the picture we have of Geology is woefully innacurate - just like that of Archeology and Cosmology - and it seems to me that it has been steered that way deliberately by people who want to keep the real history of the world a secret known only to themselves, for obvious reasons.

Originally posted by Beachcoma
I'm guessing it's poetic exaggeration.

I'd say this is correct -- or nationalistic exaggeration. This has shown up as a problem in my area of Information Science where one of our leading theorists became ...err... enamored of a Hindu scholar who had his own theories about the world. Sadly, she based her previous work on her understanding of HIS understanding of genetics -- and it's a pretty embarrassing piece of work from a scholar's perspective.

A more plausible explanation for Lemuria would be the Sunda Shelf. During the last ice age, before the ice sheets melted and the sea level rose, Sumatra, Borneo, Java and Peninsular Malaysia were all connected. And since it was the ice age, the region would have been ideal for humans, since it was (and still is) tropical and balmy.

"Lemuria" is a name coined in the 1800's for a presumed land mass that explained how lemurs got to Madagascar. The first people came after 300 BC (long after the presumed events which shocked the Tamil) en.wikipedia.org...

Madagascar itself formed when Gondwanaland broke up, around 160 million years ago. That's too far back for any humans or humanoids (nor would T. Rex have been traumatized by the event because it's too early for T. Rex.)

Originally posted by srsen
That 'Life After People' documentary referred to above was fairly convincing. While I cannot vouch for the accuracy of its research and the validity of its information, i can certainly tell you that it made a strong case.

Both Hans and I have done archaeological field work, and I've done some paleontological field work (on dinosaurs.) I can say without hesitation that it was sensationalized and not incredibly accurate.

People (because of the way we're wired) tend to believe information when it's presented visually. So they show dramatic pictures of things collapsing and nobody stops to ask "if that's so, then how is it we find protocities that are 8,000 years old and older -- and they built out of mainly recyclable stuff?" Because they don't present our evidence of earlier human settlements (again -- wood, grass fibers, woven mats, pottery -- things that wouldn't last as long as a ceramic spark plug) but simply tell you that "all evidence would vanish", the brain tends to believe the pretty pictures and doesn't go out and look for other material.

Originally posted by Beachcoma
I'm guessing it's poetic exaggeration. Not to knock the Tamil people, but they (as well as a lot of other Indian people) have a tendency to exaggerate things.

Should of started that comment with "I'm not racist but...."