Sorry, but grays were discovered before this.

Betty and Barney Hill for example.

further back = cave paintings.
With all the threads on the "gray" issue you can check out, this just doesn't fly.

I believe that the truth is stranger than fiction, but not in this case.

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I wish I could agree with you, unfortunately I've had very brief first hand experience in the matter.

They are not the demons people talk about either. Those are something else. I don't know exactly WHAT, but I do know that "demons" and "grey aliens", in reality, are two separate kinds of life forms. They both exist.

No doubt that some, if not many cases, ARE hallucinations caused by some exotic form of mind control. In my case, I had proof (for a little while) that these creatures were actually physical in nature.

I'm not gunna elaborate on the issue any more than this, though. I already have elaborated on it before, and quite honestly... if you do experience this stuff, nowhere on the internet is an appropriate place for you to share this stuff.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not watching you.

If you read the many version of the Hill encounter, and ALL of the testimony recovered under hypnosis, look at their earliest sketches... The creatures may -may- be the real "grays"... But just as easily could be something wildly different.

The disinformation campaign crushed lots of different experiences into a "one size fits all" portmanteau category and that is more than unfortunate.

Good post, and I am going to officially *yank* that saying, "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not watching you."

I love it.

Originally posted by vision
Good post, and I am going to officially *yank* that saying, "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not watching you."

I love it.

Thats Nirvana lyrics. So the credit goes to Kurt Cobain for that one!!

Territorial Pissings -Nevermind

There is absolutely no evidence for the existence of any kind of aliens, let alone "Greys". Using anecdotal evidence as a basis for saying they exist is, well, rather petty. I know it'd be cool if they did, but so far there is no evidence. Cave paintings are not good evidence, as we don't know if what was painted was either accurate or representing something in the real world. Heck, I've seen paintings in art galleries of stuff that has never, and can never exist (M C Escher springs to mind).

I'm not being rude or disrespectful, I'm just pointing out the rest of the world laughs at us because we jump to conclusions. You read stuff on here about people discussing different types of aliens like you'd discuss different types of fish, as if there's bucked-loads of evidence these things are real, when we haven't even made the first step in discussing them, which is getting cold, hard, scientific proof they exist. Until that happens, everything is speculation, and when speculation is passed off as fact, it makes the speculator look, well, out of it.

Again, sorry if this causes offense.

I basically agree with you except- there is evidence for some alien life forms, or to put it better, nonhuman intelligences. They just don't fit the pattern of the classic grays, reptilians etc.etc.etc. and I agree that most of the evidence is "poor"- in a couple of ways: it's either shaky evidence, or it's good evidence that contains an element that invalidates the facts one could otherwise conclude. But that could be evidence of sophistication not falsehood.

I don't want this to get bogged down in semiotics but-

the Grays- the treaty with them, all that crap- was disinformation.

As I said above I am personally 100% sure that some sort of chalkfaced / beige entity is alive and walking around out there, but they are NOT the Grays of the mythos. They are something else.

They don't come from Zeta Reticuli, pace Marjorie Fish and all.

People like to believe this crap, we should just leave them be.

I mean a lot of people believe Homer's a real person..

I guess so- leave people to their religious beliefs and all that. It makes it difficult though when religious belief style thinking clouds reports.

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Also due to the modding around here I am taking a break. I am tired of the arbitrariness.