Ron Paul has no hope, who will you REALISTICALLY vote for?, page 1
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reply posted on 31-1-2008 @ 02:28 PM by hikix
reply to post by Pellevoisin




I've always voted in a booth with switches to flick for each persons name. There was never a choice to 'write in' a vote.



reply posted on 31-1-2008 @ 07:25 PM by madnessinmysoul
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ron paul really can't win.... it's not cointelpro, it's just common sense.
and that makes me happy. ron paul isn't a good candidate for america in any way at all

anyway, i'll substitute "ron paul" for my preferred no-chance candidate, kucinich.
i'll vote obama instead. he seems to be a genuine leader and i like his policies to boot.


reply posted on 31-1-2008 @ 10:46 PM by semperfortis
You know what is funny to me?

In all of the meetings, all of the political "Stomps" and all of the campaign rallies I have been attending, I have NEVER met anyone that did NOT know of Ron Paul.

All you keep saying is that no one has heard of him. Yet I am INCREDIBLY active politically, and never, NOT ONE TIME, have I ever shook the hand of someone, discussed the current campaign and had them NOT know who Paul was.

Now unless these people you speak of are hiding under a rock somewhere, I would love to know where all these people are that are ignorant of any one of the presidential candidates...

People know who he is and what he stands for.

It's quite simple, the losers always complain and this is your excuse for him not bing popular. You can't just accept that he is not popular because he must be right? He supports what you do, therefor he MUST be right... Well that kind of thinking just makes for excuses and bad numbers.

People know Ron Paul. The majority do not like or support him or his views. That is obvious and no amount of excuse making or crying is going to change that.

He is not going to be President in 2008. That is a fact and it is NOT because of some lack of a few minute in a debate, it is because people do not agree with you or him and face it, the major majority of the United States is NOT wrong and you right. Simple..

My Candidate is currently behind. If he loses, he loses and the people have spoken. I'm not going to cry that he was a Mormon and therefor was unfairly treated. If he loses, he loses.

I don't care for McCain, but if the American People choose him, then so be it. Does not mean they are all stupid, or uninformed or anything else. They just think differently than me. Not wrong, or right, just different.

Semper


reply posted on 1-2-2008 @ 04:17 AM by spacedoubt
reply to post by semperfortis




Semper,

Of Course politically active people know who Ron Paul is. He's a candidate in the race. Politically active people know all the players.
Folks who have been active for a long time are also stubborn. They cling to a candidate that is "close enough for government work". They have their favorite in the race. And if he loses, they go home. Better luck next time. Thats because not much will change, one way or another.

I meet people every day, every single day, who know next to nothing of the man. So, I tell them how to find out more. Or, I tell them myself. Those are the semi-politically active people. They deserve to know too.

It's just baloney, that everyone has heard of the guy. If they had, my voice wouldn't be worn out from talking.

This guy deserves to be heard. He deserves respect for getting up there and saying the things he says, whether you agree with them, or not.

McCain says nothing, Romney says nothing, they bicker over semantics.
Then, they skim over reality.

Remember that part of Bin Ladens plan was to BANKRUPT the United States?
Which candidate might keep that from happening?

100 year war McCain? nope.

How about a guy that wants to chase those "tomato seeds on a plate", called Al-qaeda? Romney. Nope, he leaves it open ended too. He's Bushlike, in that respect. See for yourself:




So, I vote for Paul, or nobody in particular.

Right now, it's about an election. When that's over, we're continuing.
A lot of people are sick of sending their hard earned money, their sons and daughters, to a government that squanders both.

We're going all the way to a brokered convention.

Which of Ron's policies do you disagree with, the most?


reply posted on 1-2-2008 @ 08:03 AM by jtma508
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I hear you spaced. I talk to people all the time who know nothing about Ron Paul. Educated people. They're obviously not politically active but they DO vote. So I keep hearing this 'everyone-knows-who-he-is-but-no-one-likes-him' and am baffled. Also, on the 'he-has-no-chance' front, it's a long, long way to the election folks. Screw the primaries.

So for the 'major' candidates you have 'bomb Iran' McCain and 'GWB is a hero' Romney. Oooooh Kaaaay


reply posted on 1-2-2008 @ 08:10 AM by thisguyrighthere
He's opening up to a third party run:

If he doesn't do well in the early primaries, Paul said he would re-evaluate his Republican bid and the possibility of a third-party run depending on how he does in the contests on Super Tuesday, Feb. 5. Source


For all the (D)'s who hate Hillary and all the (R)'s who hate McCain having a third party Paul would be a pretty nice option. Not winning the nomination could actually increase his chances of winning the presidency.


reply posted on 1-2-2008 @ 10:28 AM by jtma508
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I've thought this all along TGRH. I just hope he thinks long and hard about any party with which he decides to align. There are alot of dangers lying out in the fringe. Personally, I'd rather see him run as an Independent.
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