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Originally posted by Skyfloating
Look at some of the statements by so-called "skeptics" on this thread:
"You are a liar"
"This thread is useless"
"No research into Ufos has been done"
Originally posted by musselwhite
this thread is turning into a pissing match. one cannot play if the ball is not thrown back.
Originally posted by malganis
And if some evidence (e.g. a photo) is given, then expect people to tear it to shreds to try and debunk it. If it is a good piece of evidence then it will stand up to the test.
Originally posted by tep200377
Did I claim that this was a UFO, alien or something paranormal? I'd say you really hit a few meters from the nail on this one.. I was merely trying to relay an news article about conspiracy. I wasn't trying to prove anything .. nada...
a poor try to prove a point..
Originally posted by tep200377
As many other threads on this forum states, there are not a single shread of evidence on this forum that backs up ie UFO's, Aliens or Planet X. Not even life on mars. No evidence at all.
A blinking dotin the sky is still not any evidence.
And as I asked in the top of this post .. two or three posts with more than 5 minutes of research ... in the paranormal "chapter" ..
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Not a "shred of evidence"? No more than 5 minutes of research?For the UFO topic, start by reviewing the threads of a member named Isaac Koi.
Originally posted by tep200377
Could you please explain to me what Isaac Koi's research has lead to? Do we have any solid answers, or is it still just reports of "seeing something"..
What has he researched. Has he made any red lines between events? Has he cross-checked all the 1800 pages of ufo sitings, or just made a list of it?
What kind of research methods does he use? Does he have a database with variables to do the cross checking on? Or just a simple .doc ?
Making a list of ufo events is not research, nor is linking to stories or books. It's a bit more work than that. Its all fun and unlimited ammount of reading, but not classified as research.
If Im mistaking, well ... show me some result of the research please ..
Originally posted by tep200377
Why don't you just man up and answer my questions and stop behaving like a fool.
Originally posted by NewWorldOver
Excellent point. In the world of conspiracy 'debate', it goes like this.
Person A presents conspiracy theory, attempts to discuss.
Skeptic B walks in, demands proof, evidence, calls conspiracy theory a dead topic.
Person A offers articles, photos, some sort of evidence to sketpic.
Skeptic B pisses all over the research material, claims the evidence to be a hoax, and once again demands the conspiracy theory is a dead issue.
Person A acknowledges Skeptics opinion and attempts to carry on discussion about conspiracy theory.
Skeptic B stamps feet and throws a tantrum, "Need I remind you that I have already made up my mind on this topic? Stop discussing it."
Person A gently tries to ignore Skeptic
Skeptic B stamps feet, "You're ignoring me because you can't PROVE IT." Claims conspiracy theory to be a dead issue... again...
Person A gently asks Skeptic to allow conversation to continue.
Skeptic B asserts that this is censorship and just proves that the conspiracy theory is invalid. Skeptic holds chin up high and pokes all newcomers in the chest should they attempt to discuss the theory.
Originally posted by tep200377
Well, I'm actually glad to hear that As many other skeptics here on ATS, I feel that the OP actually takes us all in one take labeling us seudos. I think it is a big grey zone from a regular skeptic to pseudo.
Originally posted by NewWorldOver
Really, is that not the way it goes? Because I think that's exactly how it goes.
Originally posted by LoneWeasel
All I'd say in defence of the skeptic is this. I came to these boards because I believed in aliens and ufos, I believed in government conspiracies, and I believed in getting them out in the open. I started off as open minded as you could hope me to be. I was shocked at how quickly I became cynical, though. Actually what has happened is that I believe far less of what I see now, than I did before I got here. You could say I'm more skeptical - I prefer to think my nose for conspiracy has become more refined!
Originally posted by undo
I remember the first time I posted here.
[edit on 22-1-2008 by undo]
Originally posted by tep200377
reply to post by undo
Well, I'm actually glad to hear that As many other skeptics here on ATS, I feel that the OP actually takes us all in one take labeling us seudos. I think it is a big grey zone from a regular skeptic to pseudo.
Originally posted by malganis
If you actually go and read some '*OMGZ I JUST SAW A ALIAN!*'