I typically don't believe abduction stories mainly because of the sleep paralysis thing, but your story lacks that so I gotta say I'm intrigued.

I'll file this under "keep and open mind" and listen more. And to all the people who want this person to stop posting and provide evidence, isn't he giving a pretty good reason why he doesn't have it? I mean, put yourself in that situation and imagine getting into some sort of emotional relationship with them. I wouldn't want to take anything in fear of never being contacted again. Although I might ask them, "hey before we go, mind if I bring my Canon and snap a few pics?"

Great posts benign, and even if you aren't truthful it is food for thought. You offer a unique experience and I can imagine if ET is out there he is probably sick of people being so afraid of him and just wants to kick back and let people play with his super-advance GOOGLE GALAXY. Keep it up, you have my attention.

Hey benign.psychosis.

Really, like someone above said, if they come to you one more time, tell them that there are people who arent afraid (Im not one of em, Ofcourse, I really want to see ET in my lifetime...kinda my biggest dream ever, but umm on the other hand, If a gray would visit me during nighttime I would probably have heart attack or something), and there are people who are willing to communicate, maybe they can tell them something about how we live, things about social life, culture, and things like that.

So if this is true (And I kinda trust you, tho it might be vivid dream, but who knows, might as well be real ET visit) You should really tell them about other people, people who are ready for this. So maybe one by one, one day we will all be ready and have world wide huge ET contact...thing.

P.S Sorry if its hard to understand what im trying to say, English is my third language, and im kinda bad at umm...actually writing/telling what i really mean.

Good imagination, but there were some holes/contradictions that need to be fixed in your story. When are you releasing the book.

You can cut down some more trees to add your book to the hundreds out there on the market already that say the same thing.

I'm sorry, but I think if it was real this would have been a bigger deal to you, and not something you would just randomly post 6+ months down the road after starting a bunch of non-related threads. Most people on ATS who claim to be abducted do it within the first few posts. Apparently debating Jewish mind control techniques and the NWO was a bigger priority to you up until now. Sorry, not buying it...





[edit on 7-1-2008 by b309302]

Hi there,

The "Greys" you are dealing with? You say they are breaking a law or rule on their side by visiting some humans and taking them for rides and that their intentions are benign ,good for us..in this case you.

1) What about their "rulers" or governing bodies.. Do you have any clue/idea/feeling/vibe that they can be trusted though?

2) Do you know who are the "ones" mining ,their species ,other alien life or the lot? I do understand you mention other species but i am unclear if you were just speaking about them (your friends) mining.

3) Certainly they must feel something for humans seeing that they are breaking rules ,just for a ride...or are they just as curious about other lifeforms? What do you feel ,they are honest and have true sympathy towards us?

I do hope you continue with the story ..i enjoyed reading this.

I'm surprised that nobody mentioned the glaring problem with this 'story'.

It's so obvious that surely some of you must have noticed it.

Because of this, it's quite clear what the OP's intent is.

Originally posted by Badge01
I'm surprised that nobody mentioned the glaring problem with this 'story'.

--Care to elaborate?


Also,

I'd like to know if the inside of the ship looked like what one of the previous posters asked. . the Bob Lazar model. OP. . please respond to that question.

Also, what DOES make you think this wasn't just a vivid dream?


Thanks

[edit on 7-1-2008 by amongus]

Hey Benign, i'd like to start off by saying that whether this is a dream, or an actual event, I believe in the experience you had, i believe that when people say 'this is just a vivid dream' they forget that the only reason that life itself, the things we experience such as emotions, or sensations of touch or smell only differ as it is a shared experience, we're all in it together, experiencing these things. Who's to say that we experience these things in the same way?

People see colour's differently, smells differently, yet the stimulus themselves don't change, it is our perception of this stimulus. God knows, after spending more than an hour on here you can see we all have different points of views, that is why it is such a popular website, for people to share these points of view with others, so that they can have a chance of 'glimpsing' the bigger picture.

That said, who's to say that if this was just a dream, why is it less real? I know that I have had dreams were i have interacted with the environment and other people, and I have found them very profound and insightful.

I noticed someone above mention that the grey's are evil and wicked etc. YES, some are, but having read numerous contactee and abduction experiences, I can say with confidence that there are good grey's aswell, and who's to say that these weren't the good grey's? people use this piece of information as a way to discredit the account.

Now the heavy stuff is out of the way.. some questions I'd like ansewerd for my own puzzle

The map you used? was this a touch control mechanism, or was it sort of, thought controlled? you think it and your there... (this would be the same for the ship aswell, could u feel acceleration? Here the ship power up?)

The grey's, were they distinguishable from each other, or did they all look EXACTLY the same, I mean height, eyes etc?

Communication, I'm guessing there was no talking, only slow hand gestures? If I'm wrong, please correct me..

I am sorry if any of these have been answered, I read the full thread and I felt these wee the questions that were important to my conclusions and I felt that they havent been answered properly, or asked at all..

Thank you in advance, and please share any other experiences you've had.

I have to ask this i don't know why but, what do they smell like? lol

Hi b.p the OP & everyone,



b.p : I used to get greys in my room all the time as a child, they would observe me while I slept - standing silently over me. This all happened when I was 7 and 8 years old.

How could you tell since you were sleeping ?

b.p : The first couple of times I was really scared, especially from seeing movies about aliens, and how they were always evil.

You are basically saying that you would not have been scared by greys in your room if tv and alien stories did not exist back then ? You obviously did not see ET by Steven Spielberg, he was nice...

b.p : I recognized them as the same greys, but I never got any names lol.

Now that is some funny xxxx, you were like, "hey whass up buddies, remember me, 'cause I remember ya all."

b.p : but also view us as inferior beings with no potential

Next time, tell them that we started from throwing stones at them and now
we can nuke them or shoot them with a railgun. Seems like your ETs were just as dumb as some of us down here.

b.p : They wouldn't explain any of the technology to me.They told me that there are mining operations going on in the kuiper belt like areas around most star systems, but they only mine those belts that don't contain the required elements for life to begin, as larger bodies would form anyway. Doing what they did is illegal under their laws, and it's only a small group that think contact is a good thing, while the majority of their species want to remain isolationists until other races are as ethically/morally and intelectually evolved as they are.

Total nonsense, they would not explain some of their technology that you would never understand anyway but at the same time, they told you where they hang out more or less and what their "gameplan" is. They must be really really dumb.

b.p : I don't expect anyone to believe this

You must know how to read into people's mind ahead of time, maybe they gave you this special gift, who knows ?

b.p : If anyone has any questions, please feel free to ask.

Well, all I can say is that not only I think that you're full of cheese but sorry
you will never be a good S.F writter neither.

But I had fun so thank you anyway.


Peace,
Europa



[edit on 7-1-2008 by Europa733]

Can't wait until you answer some more questions of ours OP.


8 flags for such a phenomenal, hard to believe story ain't too bad.


I can't say I believe 100%, or 90%, or 80%, maybe around 75% because I'm always open to the idea of people having incredible experiences, but I always have my doubts until I see some evidence.


Without these zany, of-the-wall stories, the world wouldn't be interesting and seem like we know everything, which would mean we would find nothing interesting, but of course,we are far from knowing all that there is - even in our Earth alone.

Originally posted by benign.psychosis
They see our media, our television, and our porn,...

Porn? That seems just kinda outta' place. Why would they watch 'porn'.
Not many earthlings sink to watching porn, so why would aliens watch crap like that? I mean, not only is it a major waste of time for critters like them who have traveled all this way (and a waste of time for humans), but we aren't even the same species. Porn has no scientific value .. it's all fake ... it's trash.

Why porn??

[edit on 1/7/2008 by FlyersFan]

…The ship I went on was pretty remarkable, the whole body of the ship was invisible from the inside, but still visible from the outside…

…I also believe we did not teleport straight into the ship so that I could get a glimpse of the invisibility technology…

My first question would be about this apparent contradiction. Which was transparent? The view from which direction?

BP,

I'd like to hear more of your story, but first I would like a little corroboration.

As it stands you give no reason to believe anything you are saying.

I know you've already stated that you are not willing to provide any proof/evidence of your claim, but maybe you could strengthen your story by prooving you are credible...

Do you have any friends or family willing to come online and say, "yea, BP was missing for several hours that night," or "I've known BP for years and BP would not make this up," or "Yes, I can confirm, as BP's father/mother/sister/brother that BP did infact have peculiar things happen to him when he was a child."
You know, something of that sort...

Maybe there was a sighting in your area on the night of your visit?
Something that got reported?

B.P, give us something to go on.
If you can't then I understand, but you've lost my interest.
Best Regards.

To the OP...

The technology the supposed aliens told you about is going to be or they're referring too is probably Nano technology. Nanobots and biological nano interfacing with computers and such. That would explain how they controlled their ship with their minds and even how the ship was invisible from the inside like you described.

I found your story sorta well said when you said that they choose children because they lack prejudice and hostility. Thus, makes them trainable to the mentality and study of their experiments. Just like Christianity says "Faith like a child" A "older" human would be set in it's ways and cultural beliefs and harder to control.

When I was reading your story and you mentioned that they have lifespans of 3000 or so years and that most them find contact with us a not so good idea. I instantly came to the thought that maybe this was how religion or faiths or deity worship evolved on our planet. It makes sense thinking this way if you put aliens into the picture. Maybe some of the minority accidentally got caught into a Star Trek like "Prime Directive" disobeying involvement. Which resulted in a disruption in our evolution. Now "They" are observing us... maybe helping us? Maybe trying to fix their problem they created by getting involved in our world?

I also thought too... diseases, virus, bacteria, contamination, infestation. They would be vulnerable to our hostile planets environment. I tend to argue with allot of supposed alien views that if they do or did visit us... how did they survive our planets viruses, our planets gravity, our planets atmosphere or even how did they survive even touching our very human bodies? My question to you would be also the same... how did you survive contact with them and how did they survive contact with you? The only thing I can then go back to thinking is Nano technology or a higher form or more advanced version of it that the aliens have that manages infectious disease and keeps them healthy. Just my theory.

Anyway, those where my thoughts and some of my main concerns to the validity to your claim of alien experience.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
I mean, not only is it a major waste of time for critters like them who have traveled all this way (and a waste of time for humans), but we aren't even the same species. Porn has no scientific value .. it's all fake ... it's trash.

Why porn??

So, you are saying that something which consumes one third of interent's capacity has no scientific value. You are saying that an entire culture has no scientific value as a phenomenom. You do realize that one third of capacity makes it 8 hours a day, for each of us, right? (yes i do realize some formats take more space than others, while being at 1h30min on average. i merely empahized my point).