Is Christianity Dying?, page 11
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reply posted on 11-12-2007 @ 07:56 PM by luxor311
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If I were you I would cool it on the Biblical quotes...sometimes that alienates would be followers further and further from religion


reply posted on 15-12-2007 @ 02:19 PM by roger_pearse
Originally posted by Conundrum04
This topic reminds me of a book I read about 6 years ago.

Why Christianity Must Change or Die - by John Shelby Spong

www.spiritualityandpractice.com...

Written by a bishop who came to his senses and realized that the religion of Christianity is one big giant hoax.


But who did not, however, resign his job, car, chauffeur, salary, pension, perks.... etc etc.

Do we really admire people who bite the hand that feeds them?

All the best,

Roger Pearse


reply posted on 22-4-2008 @ 11:35 PM by Lookdeeper
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Im sorry im new here and didn't have much time to read beyond the first page of this thread. Im quoting the OP, we are the "lucky ones because we question authority". That's about all we do... keep questioning and hoping someone else or something else gives us the answer... (just my opinion) Read the holy bible, the glorious quran, and the taurat. And im not talking about the 40 different versions of the bible that you read in the western world im talking about the original ones in hebrew and greek text which havent been changed. Then have science contradict them. I've been hearing a lot of crap like omg there was this field of energy and the universe was created like a popcorn or the big bang theory or the "this is SPAAARRRTTAA" theory. I mean doesn't it sound more logical to say a supreme being started everything?? Explain, before the energy field existed, or ANYTHING existed, what was there? I need a scientific explanation... only thing you can say is NOTHING. So then how do you get SOMETHING from NOTHING??


reply posted on 24-4-2008 @ 11:28 AM by TheWalkingFox
Yes, Christianity is dying. What's the cause of it's slow decay?

Christians, mostly. Corruption and perversion and selfishness and intellectual dishonesty are rife through all branches of Christendom. The majority of Christians take it for granted that they will be going to heaven - and conversely, everyone they disagree with will be going to hell. Their leaders are either wealthy pedophiles... or wealthy pedophiles who don't believe in communion. Some attempt to escape this by further dividing, forming small church cores or independent worship groups, which rapidly become personality cults. The most prominent displays of Christian belief in the western world is a bunch of chowderheads clamoring for gays, women, and atheists to be hounded and oppressed, and for nuclear weapons to be used to cleanse the world of Islam.

"But I'm not like that!" cries one of our forum Christians. Is he doing anything to fix these problems? No. Rather, he does some religious slight of hand bullcrap, "MY Christianity is better than THEIR Christianity, they're not real Christians, I don't have a religion, I have a lifestyle, you can't pin any church on me because I don't have a church!" Intellectual cowardice. They want all the benefits of calling themselves Christian, but none of the responsibilities - no different than those pedophile priests, or the prosperity doctrine pastors.

All this has the net result of a religion shambling along in its last days. Christianity has a lot of potential - but its followers would have to actually be Christians, as in, following what Jesus teaches, rather than the salad bar approach to the book they all currently take, rather than the aggressive "with us or against us!" mentality that so many have.



reply posted on 24-4-2008 @ 12:17 PM by psychedeliack
All religions are growing faster than anyone can count, because people are realizing the depths of spirituality, and the shallows of religion, and they are all beginning to unite.
This is not something people generally can put down on a consensus form or be gathered from statistics, its a mental understanding far beyond this realms coherence. I just look like I study many faiths to my computer, but in reality, they all work for me, not a single one has failed. And the man in the catholic church, may know the same things, but is just keeping tradition with his newfound understanding of oneness. Statistics don't touch this group.
Remove labels like Jesus or Krishna, or Mohammed or whatever, and just look at the energy signature of what they embody, then look at all the world religions, then look into your heart, and then tell me one God did not create the conditions for every universe to exist.
A scientists may come to such a revelation, but will not have the words to describe the situation, since he would be either making up new terms to sugar coat spiritual ones, or, using spiritual ones that discount his scientific decree.

Someone could turn this all around and say people are becoming more scientific about their spirituality, and in truth, its correct, because spirituality is something you can use the scientific method to validate, you just have to be willing to do the work internally, rather than tangibly, even though many of the results will leak into your tangible universe, synchronicity an such.

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