Originally posted by Pericle
We are the real energy, but limited. It's like taking an A4 paper and cutting a small part, its still paper but just one small bit.
I see what you are saying. Our vessels are finite, ergo the possibilities that we can seemingly achieve through the duration of their existence appear
limited. But imagine the infinite of space and time containing an infinite amount of conscious vessels that are all interconnected. It's like an
We all have infinite potential. You are infinite, I am infinite, we all are. But only our intuition and imagination are the closest things we
have to the Divine, or the whole A4 paper. Because for the rest we are limited. We are limited by time, by material things (like our body),
We have infinite potential so long as our vessel will allow for it, since we pass away do we really have unlimited potential? Even if I have
"unlimited potential" and work on a project from the time I am born... some day I must cease, thus my unlimited potential as a single entity is
limited. What is the Divine that you speak of? What definition entails this word? I do not understand intuition, I do comprehend decisions made from
analyzation and experience. For the most part I see that we agree on this point. Very well
I think you are right, it is not right to say that "in the beginning there was the Source" since the Source has existed since infinity. Time
does not exist at that level. I guess you can call the beginning or the end the moment when we as pieces of the paper become one with the
You mean our Birth? Sorry to nitpick, excuse me if you will. Etymologically a whole is a totality, a totality is a limitation, such as one. Do we
become one with the whole or do we become one with the eternity or the "unwhole" at our conception? Essentially what we are proposing when we say we
become one with the whole is: we are saying that we become one with the one. I'd be more inclined to say that we become aware of our eternal
contradiction, as we are one yet eternal simultaneously. And in deeper aspects we are not one, it is like the butterfly effect on a macro scale. We
all rely on each other through energetical interdependence. We are all part of a relative eternally omnidirectional perpetual motion organism or
machine if you will.
We are all made of pure energy, but pure energy would be that energy that has infinite potential. Or in other words be the whole. We are pure
energy but we are limited. Everything you see around you is limit. Creation is limit. When God made the world he set limits in the
Again I do not believe in God. If when you say God created the world you are referring to the energetical evolution of this living rotary organism
through astronomical or other constitutions, then okay. When I look around me I can see both limit and unlimited. The limits of infinity have always
been, have they not?
We are all part of God and God part of us. The Source is just the sum of all parts. Infinity and God might be the same thing. God is infinite
and creation is the expression of infinity. You can't see infinity, only its manifestation, aka creation. I guess the last limit is when you
experience infinity or be infinity. After that its just, well, infinity again. But even God is creation so that might sound paradoxal. The Ultimate
God is infinity and it might be impossible to reach that level.
If we are all part of God and God part of us then together we are the "Ultimate God", or infinity as you say, thus once reaching this realization is
it not then okay for me to refer to myself as God? The level of awareness of a being negates the possibility of anything. Everything is the expression
of infinity, not only creation, but also creation, unless creation to you is a meaning that describes what everything does. And what is actually
created in knowledge is transcendent, correct? Thus how could anything actually be "created", it is only altered and morphed of perfection? The
possibility of everything exists in the elements of eternal energy and their perfect consummated interworking sustanation.
What are you ultimately saying is that infinity is the creation of expression and the expression of creation, but then we go back to a beginning
because the word "creation" is derived of a low awareness. Nothing is ever created, everything is ever changed. The acceptance is that existence is
an eternal contradiction, or so it seems to us right now... but there is no contradiction... that is merely the way it is, the contradiction is only
seen as a result of Human ego to keep things separated and one way.
It is really hard for me to understand infinity, maybe there is nothing to understand about it. It is just everything. Our goal is to be a part
of that infinity as much as possible, to have less limits and more infinity.
Why is there a goal to be a part of infinity, how are we not a part of infinity already?
I have much adulation for your first two sentences, read them carefully. "maybe there is nothing
to understand about it. It is just