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AT&T feeding private data to NSA?

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posted on Nov, 8 2007 @ 12:27 PM
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I saw this on the keith olberman show last night, and found the article today. here's a link to the full story:

seattletimes.nwsource.com...

seriously...if this is true..?

what. is. it. going. to. take.

/sigh




posted on Nov, 8 2007 @ 02:20 PM
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I think thats been around for a while now. I think they got in trouble in San Fransico for giving data to the NSA.



posted on Nov, 8 2007 @ 02:21 PM
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yeah just fyi, you accidentally put a question mark at the end of your subject line...

this has been going on for a while. i remember hearing about it years ago.



posted on Nov, 8 2007 @ 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by ChrisJr03
I think thats been around for a while now. I think they got in trouble in San Fransico for giving data to the NSA.


Yes, I remember this story a few years ago. They all do it as far as I'm concerned. Probably ISP's too!

from the article above.

"Klein's documents and his account form the basis of one of the first lawsuits filed against the telecom companies after the government's warrantless-surveillance program was disclosed by The New York Times in December 2005."



posted on Nov, 8 2007 @ 02:47 PM
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I saw that too on Olberman last night.
He even had the guy on last night who blew the whistle on AT&T.
1984 here we come!
Heres the video from last night's show about this.

Can you spy on me NOW! Keith OLBERMANN



[edit on 8-11-2007 by Black_Fox]



posted on Nov, 8 2007 @ 03:29 PM
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Sorry about the redundant post folks. I was under the impression that stuff like this had been going on for a while, but not as concretely indicated as last night's story.

Nonetheless, I still find it alarming how much people seem to get away with nowadays. I mean, what would it take? Lies about torture, lies about surveillance, lies about everything.

And then the Mike Carona police chief scandal here in california. The guy's indicted on 10 counts (last I heard) of federal corruption. Not only is he STILL in office, he gets to take a 2 month paid vacation to "prove himself" innocent, he got to appoint his stand-in, I mean come on!!!

Seriously, it's like some federal official from (pick your favorite agency) could walk right out in broad day light, shoot someone in the face with a bazooka, have it captured from 20 different cameras and angles, and it would STILL be "alleged".

Which...I guess is why ATS is here...

/sigh



posted on Nov, 9 2007 @ 12:25 PM
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This is a valuable tool for our masters to use. They need to see how us sheep react economically, and socially whenever they implement "shocks" in to the system. This information gives them an accurate descriptor of how to manipulate the economy and the social norm in order for us sheep to be easily controlled.



posted on Nov, 9 2007 @ 12:44 PM
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Related thread here with in-depth links and a guess as to what they are doing with the data, it's not just about terrorists:

Scary Surveillance and Synthetic Environments:
www.abovetopsecret.com...'



posted on Nov, 9 2007 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by guavas
I saw this on the keith olberman show last night, and found the article today. here's a link to the full story:

seattletimes.nwsource.com...

seriously...if this is true..?

what. is. it. going. to. take.

/sigh


This is the FBI/NSA's Carnivore system. It runs software called DCSNet, which allows them to capture HTTP/FTP/Usenet/Email etc.. all at the click of a mouse and remotely. I worked for an ISP in 2000 and our Network Operations Manager was sworn to secrecy about the "red box" that the FBI came and made him install on his network. It was connected directly to our trunk line that all of our backbone was on. We were running off of Time Warner, QWEST, Sprint, UUnet, Level 3, and Broadwing. This has been going on for over a decade now. There are partially declassified documents about Carnivore and DCSNet, part of the Echelon system operated by the NSA.

Link to a Freedom of Imformation Act request and the declassified government documents on DCSNet:
www.eff.org...

Wired article about the Carnivore:
www.wired.com...

[edit on 9-11-2007 by thatblissguy]



posted on Nov, 9 2007 @ 06:13 PM
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wow, im not suprised. In response to the video, if they collected data on people, and the data of people they called, does it go farther and look at everyone? where does it end?



posted on Nov, 10 2007 @ 03:31 AM
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Old news really. There are hubs in the united states everything runs through. This info is sorted and picked on as needed by government agencies. There are a few new books out there on the subject of SIGINT intelligence that talks about this stuff. "Chatter" is a good one.


Anyways, look at it this way, if you don't have anything to hide it isnt a big deal because they are looking for terrorists not what porn your looking at or programs you are downloading.
There is so much information out there it is impossible to sort through all of it so they only go after important things.



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