reply to post by DeadFlagBlues
Well... There are multiple styles of production within Hip-Hop. There are multiple ways to sample and each way of sampling usually results in a
completely different style. Just like people who play the guitar, it's easy to identify the best technique guitarist, melody maker, fluidity, etc
I personally don't feel it's necessary to trash what I've sampled by adding my own beat to it for example. This is very prevalent on J Dilla's
Donuts. I find it harder to correctly master a song if you're working simply with the original samples. In fact, if you don't worry about adding
beats to all your songs then you're able to create far more loops splicing together integral parts of the original song which is usually noticed as
At this point it's whoever can emulate the most kinds of sounds and not be out of their place. RJD2 is very limited in this sense. He doesn't like
to experiment - His new album actually dropped all sense of Hip-Hop and sold out to a more pop/gloss sound. DJ Shadow is also the same in this
respect. While he's good at what he does, which is called collage sampling, it hasn't evolved for him since Entroducing... came out. He's doing
that Hypy crap now which I don't consider to be a form of music. The thing that makes DJ Shadow interesting is that he finds records to sample which
are so rare, there's hardly any chance of you being able to crate dig and find the tunes he sampled. But at the same time he did sample Nirvana...
Which is a HUGE no-no in production.
I don't really want to get into that rule, but, I'll make it simple: Don't sample anything that happened after '82.
Then there are folks like Bonobo, Four Tet, The Cinematic Orchestra. Bonobo is pure modern downtempo. It's really good stuff and he's an expert at
keeping fluidity. Four Tet is "folktronica" but creates amazing sound scapes through heavy sample chopping which most of us pure Hip-Hop producers
don't want to subscribe to. While it's beautiful it doesn't work with vocals. (Note, Four Tet's remix of Money Folder).
So, who do I think is the best producer? Since I've actually remade a bunch of J Dilla's songs to learn how to mix vocal loops up and chop in that
certain style, I know exactly the hardships and creativity that went into his tunes. All the way from Ruff Draft to The Shining. He evolved and
changes his style to fit whatever he was trying to accomplish at the time and he wasn't a bad synth player. But I wouldn't consider him THE
best. While Madlib has his ups and downs (more ups) I'd have to go with him in this respect. He has evolved his sound since his early lootpack days.
He has multiple aliases that all capture a different element of Hip-Hop but all manage to produce:
Good music, good lyrics, a sense of creativity, and high understanding of sampling.
Oh No, Madlib's brother, he's also starting to pick up the pace. While not great yet... I have a feeling he'll be getting better over time.
Also, speaking of brothers, J Dilla's brother "Illa J" is a tool. I've spoken to him a few times and he's really just riding his brother's coat
tails. If you guys are interested in hearing his tunes, just ask for a link where you can snatch some of his, well, crap.