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Chinese engineers are trying to develop the J-10 from a single F-16 provided by Pakistan, and with assistance from Israeli engineers associated with Israel’s US-financed Lavi fighter program, which was cancelled in 1987.
Originally posted by Thirst
Am I the only one who thinks this is more than a coincidence that they look so alike? I can’t help but think that plans were leaked to the Chinese just like plans outlining concord were leaked to the Russians?
Originally posted by xianh
It is farily common in aviation history for the Russians and the Chinese to copy the design of aircraft. Only have to look to the similarity between the F-86 Sabre and the Mig-19. or the F-15 and the Mig-31. Similar designs, and probably a result of industrial espionage by the Russians.
Originally posted by kilcoo316
In fact, outside of the Buran and Tu-144, I'm having trouble thinking of anything Russian that could be called a direct relation of a western design (as regards aviation). The Buran was and is superior to the shuttle in many respects, and I don't know enough about the Charger to comment.
Originally posted by The Winged Wombat
However, there is one (and only one as far as I know) aircraft that the Russians actually did copy - bolt for bolt - and that was the Tupolev Tu-4 'Bull'. They reverse engineered the Tu-4 from 'captured' B-29s and there is a direct incremental development line from the Tu-4 all the way to the Tu-95/Tu-142 'Bear' family.
Although its last commercial passenger flight was in 1978, production of the Tu-144 did not cease until six years later, in 1984, when construction of the partially complete Tu-144D reg 77116 airframe was stopped. During the 1980s the last two production aircraft to fly were used for airborne laboratory testing, including research into ozone depletion at high altitudes.
However, the only direct lineage between the Tu-4 and the Tu-95 is that the same design bureau worked on both and learnt from past experience.
As far as the Tu-144 and Concorde thing, I recall reading that the Concorde took some concepts from the Tu-144. The Tu-144 was in service before the Concorde