Al Gore and the Global Warming Hypocrisy!!

For the life of me I can't understand how people think Al Gore has done anything good for the world. He touts his global warming theories around and urges everyone to change their lives based on these opinions. Al Gore is the most perfect example available of Liberal hypocrisy, and I'm sick of people buying into it. Here is some information for you to browse while you think about what a "wonderful" humanitarian he is.

Gore isn't quite as green as he's led the world to believe...

Sean Hannity Exposes Al Gore...

Gore should practice what he preaches...




nYk

reply to post by nyk537


Great post! I couldn't agree more.

I'm also curious when Gore become schooled in the sciences to even make a valid conclusion about any of the things he claims. Right or wrong, he's simply taking what other people tell him and choosing to believe it because it fits his agenda. If he really cared he would walk to talk as they say.

By the way, I wonder how many green house gases were emitted from the cars of liberals driving to see his movie?

I wouldn't read too much into this prize. Remember when Arafat recieved the Nobel Peace Prize for bringing peace to the Middle East. O, and there was the time that Jimmy Carter recieved the prize for stopping North Korea from having nuclear weapons. Both of these were well deserved. Look how peaceful the middle east is now, and see how timid N. Korea is without nukes.

Poland’s Irena Sendler should have recieved this prize for saving over 2,500 Jews from the Nazi Holocaust.

Irena Sendler saved two and a half thousand Jewish children from the Holocaust in Nazi occupied Poland, smuggling them out of the Warsaw Ghetto and finding Christian families and monasteries to take care of them.

Pffft! What's saving 2,500 people from death compared to jetting around the world and talking about carbon emissions?

I don't read too much into it at all. I know what a crock the whole thing is.

What really troubles me is how so many liberals think he is a godsend and is doing such great work for the world. I just don't understand how they can be so blind.

It's puzzling.

This is more like it, had CNN on earlier, that's all there was, praise for this loser, I wish the anti-Gore camp luck, he should be outed for the monster he is.

Here is yet another article about that "film" -- if you'd even call it that.

October 12, 2007 (LPAC)--A British High Court judge, Mr. Justice Barton ruled yesterday that Al Gore's film, "An Inconvenient Truth," had nine "scientific errors."

As reported in the Guardian, the list of errors--more accurately called lies--in the film, include:

1.The film claimed that low-lying, inhabited Pacific atolls "are being inundated because of anthropogenic global warming," but there was no evidence of any evacuation as asserted in the film.

2) It spoke of global warming "shutting down the ocean conveyor," referring to the process by which the Gulf Stream is carried over the north Atlantic to western Europe. The judge said that, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, it was "very unlikely" that the Conveyor would shut down in the future, though it might slow down.

3) Gore had also claimed--by ridiculing the opposite view--that two graphs, one plotting a rise in C02 and the other the rise in temperature over a period of 650,000 years, showed "an exact fit." The judge said although scientists agreed there was a connection, "the two graphs do not establish what Mr. Gore asserts".

4) Gore said that the disappearance of snow on Mt. Kilimanjaro was expressly attributable to human-induced climate change. The judge said that the consensus is that this assertion could not be established.

5) The drying up of Lake Chad was used as an example of global warming. The judge said: "It is apparently considered to be more likely to result from...population increase, over-grazing and regional climate variability."

6) Gore ascribed Hurricane Katrina to global warming, but there was "insufficient evidence to show that."

7) Gore also referred to a study showing that polar bears were being found that had drowned "swimming long distances to find the [disappearing] ice." The judge said: "The only scientific study that either side before me can find, is one which indicates that four polar bears have recently been found drowned because of a storm."

8) The film said that coral reefs all over the world were bleaching because of global warming and other factors. The judge said that, separating out the impacts of stresses due to climate change from other stresses, such as over-fishing, and pollution, was difficult.

9) Gore's film claims that a sea level rise of up to 20 feet would be caused by the ice melt from either Greenland or western Antarctica, "in the near future." In Mr. Justice Barton's legal opinion, such melting could happen, "but only after, and over, millennia." He said of the film's assertion, "This is distinctly alarmist."

[edit on 12-10-2007 by anhinga]

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Gore is a hypocrite and a liar and yet for some reason democrats and liberals LOVE him!

It's really beyond me. I don't know how they can't see this man for what he is...

I am getting tired of these threads.

I am tired of people missing something important to push a smear agenda.

No, I am not telling you to like Al Gore.

I am asking you to just think a bit. Whether you believe in humans causing warming or not ...

It doesn't hurt to take care of the environment and do things in a cleanly manner.

It wouldn't hurt you if I dumped trash in your yard. It wouldn't hurt you if I spilled a drink on your floors and didn't clean it up. It wouldn't hurt you too much if I smoked a cigar in front of you and blew it in your face. You would still live. I could say, one cigar in your face won't give you cancer. I could say, the trash will decompose over the years. The drink will be eaten by bugs and bacteria. None of the excuses makes it the moral and responsible thing to do.

I guess since I am going to die anyway, I might as well drink, drug, and stuff myself. Why bother taking care if it doesn't matter in the end.

Quality of life ... that is why. It is true, if you subscribe to science, which I assume you all do ... the earth will not exist one day. The sun will consume it. So, are we going to continue to be the earth's junkies? polluting its body and diminishing its valuable resources until it is a wasteland and dead before its time? Why not, right? Since whatever pollution and destruction we do cause will be left to future generations. No, I am not talking about global warming in most senses ... I am talking about dirty air, dirty water, raped nature, loss of species, loss of forests, loss of all the things that make this planet so beautiful and precious.


It doesn't matter if you agree with his theory, the actions he asks will be a great benefit to us all and the future. I don't agree with the excuse of carbon credits ... don't do what you do (to have the need to justify and reduce you guilt by buying them) in the first place.

Living by example is great, most don't. Do you do everything you tell your children, nieces, nephews not to do? What is worse than a hypocrite is someone who is one in their own life trying to feel better about themself by calling out others on their mistakes or shortcomings.

Divide and conquer ... a lot of people say that is an agenda today by politicians ... well, you are playing into everytime you continue the towing of political lines (liberalism was mentioned).

See everyone as a person. Put yourself in their place. Understand where they come from and what they do. Forgive them for errors, and remind yourself of your own failings. Don't let yourself become egotistical and cocky ... lest someone put you in your place one day.

I am a republican by my personal life, but my ideology is borderline socialist and democrat (like Ghandi, opposite of O'Rielly). So you can see, I don't really fit in either party. Neither satisfies me nor can fit to what I believe in. They are both failed attempts at humanity to me, but, I cannot judge them. I don't hate Bush ... I think he isn't as dumb as he acts ... I am wary of Cheney ... even R. Paul ... don't like all but one of the dems running and he will never get the airtime he deserves. I would rather vote for Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart ... at least they are real people (even if they show their discontent through humor and satire), and at this moment, I would rather have a real person than a career politician who only thinks of lobbyists (greed).




Please, I beg of you all to stop this tired attack on this man and his message. Even if you feel the thesis is flawed, the methods he asks to solve what you feel is a fake problem ... are still the right thing to do, and should be done anyway. Stop driving Hummers, use fluorescents, turn stuff off when not in use, drive more reasonably, (recycle, reuse, reduce) and other things of that nature. Trust me, it won't hurt.


Maybe the debate forum has got me going, but ... c'mon people. Use a little more sense and dignity. The decision doesn't affect you, it effects everyone else, now and to come.

Originally posted by FreeThinkerIdealist
I am getting tired of these threads.

I am tired of people missing something important to push a smear agenda.

No, I am not telling you to like Al Gore.

I'm tired of people saying that they are tired of these threads. And it sounds you are telling me to like Al Gore if you're worried about the so called "smear agenda". I have no agenda.

I am asking you to just think a bit. Whether you believe in humans causing warming or not ...

It doesn't hurt to take care of the environment and do things in a cleanly manner.

I never said it did.

It wouldn't hurt you if I dumped trash in your yard. It wouldn't hurt you if I spilled a drink on your floors and didn't clean it up. It wouldn't hurt you too much if I smoked a cigar in front of you and blew it in your face. You would still live. I could say, one cigar in your face won't give you cancer. I could say, the trash will decompose over the years. The drink will be eaten by bugs and bacteria. None of the excuses makes it the moral and responsible thing to do.

I don't believe I or anyone else has ever advocated doing ANY of those things. Opposing someones hypocrisy does not mean that I want or anyone else wishes to pollute and destroy the earth. Don't make assumptions like that.

I guess since I am going to die anyway, I might as well drink, drug, and stuff myself. Why bother taking care if it doesn't matter in the end.

Again, what does this have to do with anything?

It doesn't matter if you agree with his theory, the actions he asks will be a great benefit to us all and the future. I don't agree with the excuse of carbon credits ... don't do what you do (to have the need to justify and reduce you guilt by buying them) in the first place.

I don't agree with his theory, and the way he lives his life, apparently neither does he.

Living by example is great, most don't. Do you do everything you tell your children, nieces, nephews not to do? What is worse than a hypocrite is someone who is one in their own life trying to feel better about themself by calling out others on their mistakes or shortcomings.

Which is exactly what Al Gore does. He is telling everyone to change their lives by riding bikes and walking everywhere, while he is zipping around in his private jet. Sounds like he fits that description of being worse than a hypocrite.

See everyone as a person. Put yourself in their place. Understand where they come from and what they do. Forgive them for errors, and remind yourself of your own failings. Don't let yourself become egotistical and cocky ... lest someone put you in your place one day.

The only one being egotistical and cocky appears to be you. As you seem to feel you have the authority to judge me and others and spout of your moral insights. It sounds as though you are quite the perfect individual to me.

I am a republican by my personal life, but my ideology is borderline socialist and democrat (like Ghandi, opposite of O'Rielly).

Socialism. Why am I not surprised.

Please, I beg of you all to stop this tired attack on this man and his message. Even if you feel the thesis is flawed, the methods he asks to solve what you feel is a fake problem ... are still the right thing to do, and should be done anyway. Stop driving Hummers, use fluorescents, turn stuff off when not in use, drive more reasonably, (recycle, reuse, reduce) and other things of that nature. Trust me, it won't hurt.

No it wouldn't. It would just be nice if the man who is preaching all of this would follow his own example. Instead he would rather just prey off of people who don't know any better.

Maybe the debate forum has got me going, but ... c'mon people. Use a little more sense and dignity.

What excellent advice.

Originally posted by FreeThinkerIdealist

No, I am not telling you to like Al Gore.

I am asking you to just think a bit. Whether you believe in humans causing warming or not ...

You've got the point, its not Gore that wins the Nobel Prize, its the Environment. Gore is the most prominent politician globally to give it to, his lack of competition I find slightly disturbing, coz he don't know what he's on about, or our Judges are incompetent. What we need next are Nobel Prizes for science in this area, and probably 10 a year if we are to encourage good innovation.

nyk ... why?

what is the benefit of dragging other people through the mud?

Instead, why not uphold the people you do respect.

That is what my intentions are.


You misunderstand what socialist is ... it is not communist. That is brainwashing. I actually believe in a free society where people can do what they want, how they want, with little to no restrictions. No borders, no control. You want to move, move. You want something, go to the place and pick it up. I am not speaking of the corrupted version that always happens because of greed and power lust. That is the big difference. I believe in the IDEAL of socialism, not the reality of it.

So, you would rather have a system of oppression than freedom? I highly doubt that.

I would love to debate you on that issue, BUT, you take the socialist side and I will take capitalist or whatever side you wish. Give it your all, so you can see the pure form and lose the negative feeling about it. All systems have their ups and downs until humanity as a whole matures.


You know, I usually am tired of people saying they are tired of threads as well, but, that is usually in the ufo, skunk, or other more abstract ideas.

So, basically what you are saying, if you don't like them ... talk smack over and over. It is the right thing to do.

How about I quote an old Disney movie "If you have little nice to say about someone, say nothing at all" ... (a bit paraphrased, same meaning)


You say you have no agenda, fine, you certainly harbor a lot of negative feelings for a person you have never met.


I think you don't realize how much I was agreeing with you about Al Gore's hypocrisy in his own life ... but, I just think he is another fallible man, and if we sat down, we could pick at anybody, and the media usually does.

Do you think he is a NWO crony? Is there some hidden deadly agenda to this push for the environment? Is it so wrong that at least people are changing, despite him not following his own words? Yes, I wish he would too, but ... so you think he should be on regular passenger jets to fly around? Then shouldn't all our gov't and ex-gov't officials be in the public (I do think they should personally, it would stop them from feeling so elitist).



I never said you were egotistical or cocky, I was saying don't let you anger and judgment of a man let you slip that way ... no one is no better or worse for the most part than anyone else, he eats and sleeps and poos just like you and I ... though some use to say he was a robot, so I don't know

I think again, you are being angry for no reason, and I will forgive you for taking it out on me. I never claimed to be perfect. Thanks for the compliment though I assure you I have my faults, but I do my best to be good to those whom I run across in life, and do what good things I can to a certain extent ... I still waste power by running this silly box of silicone of which I send messages on. Would you have animosity to me if I tell someone to eat healthy, it is good for them and I myself don't, thus being hypocritical?


I suppose you say he preys off of people because he has sold the video? So, would you have had less quarrels if he gave away the dvd? Just trying to understand. I do comprehend where some pick apart the stuff in the video, he does take artistic leaps of faith in the correlations of things. Some of it I see being true. I honestly think science can't prove either way, which is pretty much what the judge said ... who btw, is not a scientist. The whole solar system is experiencing changes, so I will not argue on that point at all.

I apologize you took it as such a personal attack ... and you felt the need to lash out back. You are swatting at a ghost for I have no quarrels with you ... just how many times do we need to hear that Gore is a hypocrite? I am tired of hearing how stupid Bush is. I think he isn't stupid, but playing coy. I think Cheney is evil and preying on the masses, but, you don't see repeat threads of a worn out topic.

I guess instead of trying to appeal to your sense of humanity, I should have just done a thread search like some do and put a bunch of links with a statement above 'this has already been discussed many times' and acknowledge that sometimes the search function doesn't net fantastic results, but, ask very politely for you to contribute to one of the ongoing threads that have deeply discussed just how hypocritical Gore is and the validity of 'An Inconvenient Truth'.

Not that it matters. I am more worried about changing the water in my fish tank today than I am about repeat threads or character attacks on people I don't know ... I just thought you would enjoy a little debate and discussion, since you are a fighter as well ... maybe I was wrong and this is far too personal of an issue for you, which I don't understand why and it may not be my place to understand.

take care and I hope you cheer up and see there is no war ... sometimes people play devil's advocate for sheer enjoyment of discussion and countering someone's points and positions on things. It is a healthy thing to do.

Gore isn't the devil, neither is Bush, nor Ahmanejhad ... just human beings playing their role in this complex play on this beautiful stage.

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Excellent post!

BTW, Did you know that Plato also talked about Global Warming 400BC?

Originally posted by Alxandro
BTW, Did you know that Plato also talked about Global Warming 400BC?

Wow, there is something that i have never seen before, very fascinating, and adding it to my list of things to tell the libs, that they just can't deal with.

Originally posted by TKainZero

Originally posted by Alxandro
BTW, Did you know that Plato also talked about Global Warming 400BC?

Wow, there is something that i have never seen before, very fascinating, and adding it to my list of things to tell the libs, that they just can't deal with.

Scientific method was not really very advanced then, they were a very clever bunch, but did not really have data from all over the planet.

reply to post by FreeThinkerIdealist



And I'm getting tired of people that can't think clearly enough to understand that if global warming is not being caused by mankind, that there is most likely nothing mankind can do to stop it. Least of all by following the preachings/screachings of a global warming hypocrite. Glaring case of the blind leading the deaf - or is it the other way around?

Look at the news on this subject. The tide is clearly turning against gore's position. If this issue is another "feel good agenda item" for you, then go ahead and feel good about it yourself. Just don't expect the rest of us to blindly join you following in gore's footsteps.


For background, read the attached comments from one of the world's leading meteorologists:

link

ONE of the world's foremost meteorologists has called the theory that helped Al Gore share the Nobel Peace Prize "ridiculous" and the product of "people who don't understand how the atmosphere works".

Dr William Gray, a pioneer in the science of seasonal hurricane forecasts, told a packed lecture hall at the University of North Carolina that humans were not responsible for the warming of the earth. ...

"We're brainwashing our children," said Dr Gray, 78, a long-time professor at Colorado State University. "They're going to the Gore movie [An Inconvenient Truth] and being fed all this. It's ridiculous."

And most troubling:

"It bothers me that my fellow scientists are not speaking out against something they know is wrong," he said. "But they also know that they'd never get any grants if they spoke out. I don't care about grants."

[edit on 10/15/2007 by centurion1211]

Santa is a fake! But hey, I'll still accept Christmas presents

I think the point that angers people is that for all of Al Gore's preaching on Global Warming, he doesn't seem to want to give up his CO2 emission life-style. I don't think he actually expects any of us to change out ways. It's just a feel-good campaign with no expectations of anyone, least of all Gore, changing their ways.

reply to post by dbates


We had this in Britain with Madonna and her Earth Live gig and her pollution, and carrying all of her stuff and her security and oh, the carbon she caused. I know this is debateable, but she had 70,000 in her audience and they did not carry one jot of her emissions, in the mathematical calculation. I think those assumptions are somewhat flawed, especially in relation to the price of communication.

[edit on 15-10-2007 by redled]

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I think you miss the point entirely, the one I am making at least.


Regardless of whether you believe in 'global warming' or not, or whatever you believe the cause to be if you do believe in it ...


Live a clean life! Use things that don't waste energy and resources.

Why do you have to be wasteful just because you don't agree with an agenda?

Why kill more trees to make paper, when recycled paper works just as well?

Why drive a car that burns a gallon in 5 miles when you can drive one that burns a gallon in 10 times the distance?

Why drive a car that gets poor emissions ratings when you can drive one that gets nearly zero emissions (PZEV)?

Why pour chemicals into the waters?


I don't care what Gore says about global warming, just take care of the only environment we have ... it just so happens, what he asks people to do, is be less wasteful and less polluting. Whether he does it or not, it is a good thing to do. An addict/alcoholic that tells kids to not do it, is still right to tell the kids not to pollute their bodies. A person who asks for people to not pollute the environment is still correct, even if they are a hypocrite.

My point is, we all benefit from a cleaner, less wasteful lifestyle. If each of us did so, LA wouldn't have a cloud of smog. We would be able to drink from any stream we come across, landfills wouldn't be so much of a problem, and more resources would be conserved and last longer.

I am just trying to say everyone is focusing on Gore and global warming, which I understand to a certain extent but don't overlook the positive message within ... focus on being responsible adults and taking care of things in a healthy way. Otherwise, you are all saying, why do my homework if I will pass anyway, who needs to put effort in life to make anything better.


I guess I am asking for people to be too practical and realistic. Get their heads out of their rumps and step away from their hate and vendettas and see a bigger picture. Not global warming, but responsibility for their actions on a larger scale. Smog and acid rain, what fun, why don't I buy a car and make sure it smokes and wastes extra fuel just because I can. Why not just throw the trash out the window, it doesn't matter ... as long as no one sees and I don't get fined.

Whatever ... piss away resources, clean air and water, you won't be around to clean it up by the time it gets disgusting.

No one advocates ruining the enviroment. We just don't appreciate that the enviroment is being use as a political tool and that the ones pushing this agenda care less about the enviroment than the rest of us.

Originally posted by dbates
No one advocates ruining the enviroment. We just don't appreciate that the enviroment is being use as a political tool and that the ones pushing this agenda care less about the enviroment than the rest of us.

The Green movement was not liked by governments of any hue for years after it started. I will exempt Germany and Japan from this, they have excellent environmental traditions. It has been slow work by grass roots to slowly get the issue up an agenda dominated by oil producing and guzzling industries. Politicians now are jumping on the bandwagon, but it is a rare occasion where the people have turned the politicians away from their dirty troughs. If they think they look glorious for finally having turned, then fine, at least they're on the boat. This is one issue where we cannot afford to be divided over petty frays at the side, so if Al and Madonna wanna feel good, that's just fine by me, people listen to them (believe it or not ).

[edit on 16-10-2007 by redled]

reply to post by FreeThinkerIdealist



No, I believe I get your "point" entirely. Now it's your turn to get mine.

Your avatar "free thinking idealist" pretty much says it all. That's a nice luxury if you have the time (student?). Myself and most of the rest of us are living in and dealing with reality. A reality where the world of your "free thinking idealism" does not exist. Perhaps it might be nicer if it did exist, but it just doesn't.

This is still (somewhat) a free country. If YOU want to live a certain way, by all means do it. Do not, however, presume to preach to me that just because YOU (or Al Gore) think you have that answer, that makes it somehow the only truth. You just worry about taking care of yourself and let others decide their own paths. That is true freedom.

Some are going to call this partisan, but to me this is an example of the true litmus test of a liberal (country doesn't matter - it's the way of thinking I'm talking about). Everyone of them I read or listen to "knows" the answer to whatever the issue is and is bound and determined to force that onto everyone and anyone within their grasp.

We are all individuals here on this planet given as much free will as our current governments allow. Please allow us to exercise what free will we have left without trying to add more government control or your will on top of what we already labor under.

Turn it around. You really want to live under my rules just because I think I know better than you? No, I already know you'd prefer it if I let you do things your way. Fine, but give everyone else the same rights you claim for yourself!

So, live a "green life" all you want. Enjoy it and even be proud of yourself if you like for feeling like you are helping save the planet. But leave it right there.

Otherwise, what really makes you different than any of the religious evangelists that "know" the true way to save your soul?



[edit on 10/16/2007 by centurion1211]