I always heard stories of one similar to this phenomenon. They called it a 'bear-walker'. It supposedly 'bear-walks' you, (harasses/curses you). An example would be you seeing something in the corner of your eye, a figure, when you look, it's gone.

They said that somebody with the knowledge of this type of medicine had the ability to cast this evil curse on you.

This is prevalent (bearwalker) in this particular tribe of North American Indians.

I understand from your post Seekerof that this phenomenon is prevalent all across North America, because it is with the Navajo, and the tribe I'm talking about.

I think it might be probable today, as I still hear people telling the stories of the bearwalkers.

i heard of shamans in South America that shapeshift into jaguars and also of snake shapeshifters in India.

I have also heard that most of them required a major ritual usually involving some type mind altering substance.

seems many cultures believe in the concept of shapeshifting.

First off, WOW, somebody paid attention to something I posted! Amazing!

OK, now about the Skinwalkers.
I grew up in Utah and when I was in scouts I remember one of my leaders talking about them around the campfire. It was kinda a scary story thing. When I grew up and became a chef I started working at resorts. At 2 of the places I worked (Lake Powell and the Grand Canyon) there were alot of Navajos. When I was in Lake Powell, I was told by a older Navajo to watch out for the Skinwalkers if I was out side late at night, I could be attacked. This caused me to remember what my scout leader had told me so, I asked him about them. He told me that 2 brothers had been cursed for some reason. They had to forever walk the earth in a form other than their own until they broke the curse. He also said that they usually take the shape of a wolf but can become any creature they want, except human. For this reason, they dispise man and, they will attack and try to kill any man they see. I also heard similar stories at the Grand Canyon. I really don't know what to make of it though, I took the warning to heart. Like most legends, I feel that there must be some air of truth to it. Maybe the Skinwalkers are the same think as Bigfoot or Sasquatch. Maybe their the same as werewolves. Maybe their something else entirely. I don't know but, I do know that when I'm in the desert at night, I always keep my eyes and ears open for them.

No problem NotTooHappy.....
Be appreciative if you could recant somemore info on this from the local area or such. I have run across some interesting stories but was waiting to post for more information from members interested in this....the skinwalkers.



regards
seekerof

Originally posted by Seekerof

No problem NotTooHappy.....
Be appreciative if you could recant somemore info on this from the local area or such. I have run across some interesting stories but was waiting to post for more information from members interested in this....the skinwalkers.



regards
seekerof

I'll ask around. There's alot of people around here who kmow of the Skinwalkers. I see what I can find out from them. It might take a few days though, I gotta find the right people.

We can definately all agree on that they are quite creapy creatures. Wouldn't like to have too many of them running around.

Blessings,
Mikromarius

It is possible that 4d entities appear in 3d in forms familiar and of interest to certain peoples. That may be an explanation for this belief system.

Hello I am new here,looks like I found myself a great messageboard.
I have been a part of a indian center for 7 months now and just recently while speaking to my indian granma I was asked something (very uncomfortably) if I had ever heard of the bearwalkers, I said no i have not and it was basically left at this,when i asked if this is something i should ask our leader about i was told probably not. I would love to know anything about the bearwalkers where it started travelled through what happened ANYTHING if someone could help be that would great!
thank you

Those interested in Navajo folklore and myths should check out the novels of Tony Hillerman. Fiction but very well researched and informative. He has written a novel entitled "Skinwalkers" that is a good read as are all his novels.

If Skinwalkers do, indeed, exist, I wonder if they actually change form or if they are just somehow able to manipulate the way people see them. Kind of a "cloud the minds of the weak" type thing. I find that a more likely theory simply because I have trouble believing a physical body could manipulate itself to such extremes as to grow fur or lose fur, change bone structure, etc. That would be so cool to be able to transform into a wolf though! :p

Originally posted by Seekerof
...Well, whether it be ritual or tribal magic, witchcraft, or shamanism, there are many myths, legends, and stories of such occurances, in multiple Native American societies or tribes...

The Skinwalker story has some similarities with the Honawewe, a folkloric creature of several of the Great Basin tribes.
And of the Wendigo. Unfortunately, the Wendigo has been co-opted into several science fiction tales, thus his legendary origins has been misunderstood.

Seems to be a lot of curses being the cause.

Though a few people might think of it as a blessing : ) If olny I was a powerfull enough sorcerer that I could cast curses that changed people into monsters, I could charge money for it too.

Then I could live in a mansion on a isolated Island guarded by a bunch of weird animals.

That would be cool, it would be like the island of Dr Monro.

Jinn is what all these creatures are. They can shape shift into anything they
want, be it human or animal.
Most of you won't be able to handle this info. Which means you'll think this is BS, but do a search of.....Jinn....on Google you'll get 2,600,000 plus hits.
Then have fun learning........but most won't....to easy to deny.

The Jinn beings were the second to be created after angels....then man was created.
BTW, the ET's are also Jinn....there are many kinds, just like many kinds of humans......Whites, Asian, Indian, etc

...I can hear you all now....merky your full of it.....ya ok

But the few of you that will research this are going to be shocked at what you find.

Alright. From someone who used to be a practicing shaman. I can tell you this there are techniques to "become an animal". I have done them and succeeded. Now before you call the men with white coats, hear me out.

You don't physically look like them. Through the techniques you gain their attributes and seem to move like them and so forth. For instance it is easier to lift things, jump heights, and so on. Now what some go is dress up like the animals. This can give the illusion more.

Originally posted by Dracotic
Alright. From someone who used to be a practicing shaman. I can tell you this there are techniques to "become an animal". I have done them and succeeded. Now before you call the men with white coats, hear me out.

You don't physically look like them. Through the techniques you gain their attributes and seem to move like them and so forth. For instance it is easier to lift things, jump heights, and so on. Now what some go is dress up like the animals. This can give the illusion more.

You are on the right track. This is expanded upon quite thoroughly in my post link above.

As I can see many choose to believe ridiculous garbage instead of reading real encounter evidence from a person on a reservation.

Dracotic you used to, why not anymore?

Merky, Muhamed rasul Allah?