Mars Rover Picture Analysis Discussion, page 4

Originally posted by Kano
For starters the rover only operates at day, its solar powered remember?

According to the info I just read, this isn't true. It works on hi-tech Li-Ion batteries during night and use the Sun to recharge it's batteries during daytime.

Marius, the only things that come from NASA in my article are the emails, and the RAW images. The rest of the information is from a variety of other sources.

Well sorry then. But how many others than NASA knows the things you posted? I didn't see any referances to ESA and the Japanese Space Agency. Well ESA's vessel didn't make it, but atleast they have been working with much the same stuff, and would still serve as input.

It seemed to me when I read the article that you were basically forwarding information given by your contactees in NASA using a couple of secondary links which included info from the horse's mouth. Can you say that anything except perhaps for the quotes from howstuffworks.com has different sources than NASA?

As you would also know if you had even bothered to read it.

Basically, NASA has a mission on Mars to study the geology. Not to convince you personally of anything. Especially considering you weren't even aware of the difference between sound waves and electromagnetic radiation. That is such a fundamental and ridiculous error as to be unforgiveable, especially when you are challenging things based on this.

Well, again, I am a fool in this area, I have never hid that, and for once someone actually took the time to bother to answer me on one of dozens of questions I have posted. Many of them far better than this, and all of them questions which deserves answers. But on the site provided, radio signals were refered to as mechanical waves which need some kind of material to travel through, ie. air, in order to function. While the Sun (!) was used as an example of things which "transmit" using EM rad. It didn't show any examples on equipment which used EM rad. except for radio telescopes which need more than 100W to function I guess. It didn't even say if it was possible to send patterns like image data using such technology. Radiation of stars was the only thing I could retrieve as examples of sources for electromagnetic radiation. There is hardly a star mounted on the rover.

As for the original subject, the color anomalities: If the color chips have such special pigments, then why does the color of the isolation on the cables and the blue stuff on that greyish brown extremity to the left also change? Did they have some left and decided they'd use it to secure the cables and misc. objects they figured would look nicer with some super pigment (sarcasm intended)? And I also find it quite peculiar that it is the blue and green colors which show these anomalities. The exact two colors we are all missing in the pictures. Isn't it possible that the color of the "blue chip" is infact a fluoricent pink/red which looks blue when this or that IR filter is applied and not the other way around? I have a quite bizarre image I was earlier reluctant with posting for it looked so totally unbelievable that I left it on my HD. When I calibrated that picture in PS the whole image turned out purple-red. I'll retrieve it and post it as soon as I find it....

Edit: as for the last remark about that strangelooking purple picture I calibrated, it is missing from my drive, together with all the rest of the original .psd files which I almost always keep. Perhaps this has something to do with how my firewall has been glowing lately, with medium to high risk triggers from Texas, Pensylvania, Saudi-Arabia and China. All of them portscans and attempts at figuring out what kind of operating system I use and such. I'll redo it without problems I guess, it'll just take some more time. Atleast I'm not the one worshipping these images of Mars. The next thing I will do and at the same time ask anyone else interrested in this to do, is to try and figure out how that numbering system for the files relate to the 666 pattern. I have a couple of mathmaticans I can ask personally too.

Here. I have tweaked the images to bring the blue color back and as good as I could also the other colors, but it wasn't easy. But as you see, the whole image gets a purple color to it. This is why I speculate that they infact use fluoricent colors which shows infact oposite color than what is seen.

Also I noticed som additional anomalities in the picture which includes the sundial and was the reason for this thread in the first place. And I have seen such things many times before. Often when amateurs try to make some cool PS effects. It happens when you tweak the colors too much into the extreme. You see extreme colortints in the whitepoints. I have highlighted the areas by drawing a green square around them in the picture above:

And Kano: About the equivalent word for Hard limiting when it comes to printing, I don't remember the term for it in English, it has been too long, but in Norwegian we call it to "justere for stigning" or something like "adjusting for rising" (possibly saturation) by adjusting the curves for each of the four plates. If an image is to be printed in let's say a paper at coarse raster (around 30 lines per inch) and "tumble" (trommel) print (sorry, I don't know the term in English), the colors bleed much more than fine offset printing at 40-60 lines per inch).

Blessings,
Mikromarius

[Edited on 23-1-2004 by mikromarius]