Fox News/CNN Sold Us Out & Destroyed The Evidence, page 1
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Topic started on 10-8-2007 @ 05:37 AM by HaveSeen4Myself
I am apparently one of the VERY few people who had tuned in to cable news around 8:47AM on Tuesday, September 11th 2001. I say this because virtually everything that was shown on FOX News and CNN between 8:47 and 9:00 has been either completely wiped off the face of the earth, or severely altered.

I had some rare time home from work on 9/11 and watched the whole production from soup to nuts, thanks to my wife who woke me up and advised me to check out FOX News. CBS, NBC, and ABC did not break from their regular programming until shortly before the South Tower was attacked.

There were glaring discrepancies on the part of FOX/CNN from the very outset, which somehow have managed to remain totally obscured from 9/11 discussions. The footage I am referring to was very damning, and shortly after the tragedy I set out to find it in what would become an endless search.

It consumed literally all of my spare time which was very limited, as I wasn't home very much between 2000-05. My job required extensive travel and I had to drive from place to place, hauling my tools around and living in hotels. Many times my wife and daughter would catch a flight to the various cities so we could spend weekends together.

Initially, I looked for help on internet forums and was either completely ignored or relentlessly ridiculed (kook, tin foiler, etc) into submission. Back then, the 'party liners' were uber-aggressive and my posts would quickly get buried by these 'patriots'. What these people were doing on conspiracy forums, I have not a clue [/sarcasm].

What it all boils down to is this:

The incriminating footage of FOX/CNN was not entered into news archives on the internet, niether in video form nor text dialogue. I used every search tool and key word I could think of to no avail...for years. There still isn't even an essay or editorial on the subject that I can find. There are video archives available now that are being represented as recordings of the live reports. These are fake reproductions that do not vaguely resemble what was shown on TV.

Here is my description of what my wife and I saw on FOX/CNN during the opening act of 9/11:

When the biggest story of the century initially broke, the reports were sketchy at best. The consensus was that a Cessna type plane had somehow hit the WTC North Tower and the situation was being portrayed as non-threatening. The damage was reported as mostly cosmetic in nature; affecting only a small area inside the tower which did not pose any threat to workers in the rest of the building.

There was no reason to doubt the story; the images they were showing fit the description. Nonetheless, this was certainly an unusual development and the news anchors appeared to be nervous and lacking their usual continuity. Meanwhile, a slightly out of focus camera shot showed the WTC with just a faint wisp of smoke wafting out of the wound. The camera did not zoom in on the damage for a closer look and I remember squinting at the TV.

They didn't pan down to the street level and when FOX went to commercial, I flipped the channel to CNN only to see the exact same angle from a stationary camera with no audio. (After later seeing video footage shot by various eyewitnesses which showed that heavy smoke was billowing from the North Tower, the images being broadcast live to the masses must have been from a premade recording of some sort)

There were not any field reporters dispatched to the WTC by CNN or FOX. No colorful eye witness accounts live at the scene that you would expect. Nope.. nothing like that. They must not have fielded any phone calls from good sources, looked out the window, or removed their heads from their collective asses that morning. At this early juncture of 9/11, there was a clear and present danger.

What happened next was incomprehensible. The news anchors on both CNN and FOX News encouraged people who worked in and around the WTC that it was business as usual. Pressing on their ear pieces and hesitating between sentences, it was as if someone was carefully choosing their words for them.

They SPECIFICALLY and repeatedly advised employees of Merrill Lynch and Morgan Stanley that it was going to be a BIG TRADING DAY and they were going to miss out on hefty commissions if they didn't come in to work. This was extremely peculiar. An obvious question would be why did the NYSE even sound the opening bell that day? Anyone see a pattern yet?

Instead of warning of the inherent dangers and urging people to stay clear of the WTC, they were actually giving the "all clear". Something was important enough to put more lives in harms way while risking that which is supposedly dearest to news agencies - a little thing called CREDIBILITY. Who is responsible for the muzzle of secrecy that was firmly imposed on the media the morning of 9/11? How much did FOX/CNN get in return for their souls?

I guess we've all been led to believe that in an age of breaking news stories from highly competitive networks who thrive on being the first on the scene; a jumbo jet could roar into NYC striking a national landmark during RUSH HOUR while being mistaken for a CESSNA. We've all heard the old adage 'bad news travels fast'. Maybe it headed out across the Atlantic Ocean and had to circumnavigate the globe on 9/11, along with those scrambled F-15 fighters.

It wasn't until the second tower exploded that the nightmarish pseudo-reality became apparent to the viewing public in a sick example of shock TV. Wouldn't you just know it...that coincidentally, NOBODY was on commercial break at 9:03 when the real fireworks started. The money shot.

The shock value was so great that the media's previous total and utter lack of news gathering capabilities went virtually unnoticed. Then, and only then; CNN and Fox News finally started performing the job that their trusting viewers had come to expect: 'Heroically' reporting on the worst 'terrorist' attack ever, while solidifying their bond with one of the most terrified, naive herd of sheep in the world.

The NYSE didn't close until 9:32AM, despite the financial district being surrounded by death and destruction. Some timelines have no record of it opening at all. I wonder how many people in the news industry took the time to make a few trades during this little window of opportunity?

Peter Jennings wasn't in on it. He called them out live on TV, referencing controlled demolition. Rest in peace brother

[edit on 8/10/07 by HaveSeen4Myself]


reply posted on 10-8-2007 @ 07:48 AM by HaveSeen4Myself
Thanks for the suggestions, guys.

The chances of anyone having this on TIVO, DVR, or VHS are very slim for a few reasons. I imagine hordes of people recorded the broadcast of 9/11 after the South Tower explosion. Up until that happened, however, the unconfirmed Cessna twist and the minor damage being reported made it seem like just another quirky story. Anyone who might have caught such an [alleged] non-event on tape would have to be recording the news 24/7. CNN and FOX both broke for commercials at least twice during the approx. 15 minute time span, further passing it off as insignificant. I watched MS-NBC also, but only briefly when CNN and FOX went to commercial at the same time.

I also believe that there is a very concerted effort to make sure this footage never reaches the mainstream. If videos were posted on utube, google, etc, I'm sure they would have been taken down within moments, along with somebody's harddrive. I have even been hesitant to start this thread, but recent events have convinced me to pull out all the stops. I'm sending the OP to several Democratic newspapers along with permission to print it free of charge. I encourage everyone else to do the same.

As for the digital archive, the footage is not authentic for that 15 minute period of 9/11. It's all a very convincing fabrication, unless you were watching along that day. I also think that when they prematurely reported the WTC 7 collapse on BBC and CNN, this was the result of a whistleblower who probably was included in the body count on 9/11.

As for me, I'm not scared either.

[edit on 8/10/07 by HaveSeen4Myself]


reply posted on 10-8-2007 @ 10:33 AM by quintar
At 9 am, New York times had the following article online:


It's funny how google wasn't updated until 9:54 am:



Also, found this Fox headline. See how it mentions United flight is missing, not crashed.





reply posted on 10-8-2007 @ 10:41 AM by Esoterica
Originally posted by quintar
Also, found this Fox headline. See how it mentions United flight is missing, not crashed.


They do that all the time. Until you find wreckage, a plane is "missing."

People seem to be forgetting that there was much confusion that day.


reply posted on 10-8-2007 @ 10:53 AM by jprophet420
i remember that morning, I worked in a microchip producing factory....

wow i just had an epithany. That factory was huge. there were 200 people leaving the building, and probably more than double that coming in. Intel Fab 22 at its height of production. i had to walk i would say about between 1/3 and 1/2 of a mile from my station to my car. The night shift got off at 6 am and there was a 15 minute overlap in shift for 'shift change'.

I saw literally hundreds of people beween quarter till and 10 after. Arizona does not have daylight savings time so we were 3 hours behind EST on that day.

Here is the clincher: This was (still is) a state of the art factory. there were hundreds of internet connections and literally every employee had a 2 way pager. Many of those people including myself subscribed to outside news sources. My news headlines did not go off, and not one person mentioned the incident. There was no 'Buzz' nor 'word around the campfire' that morning. This is especially odd since standard procedure was to blow off the end of your shift. The managers took the numbers to the shift manager at 5am so you werent really responsible for anymore work unless you were in the middle of fixing something. Many of my co workers were logged onto terminals and said nothing.

I never saw it happen 'live'. i saw it on msnbc.com when i got home. How odd that no one said anything. I cant imagine that you would not mention what is quite possibly the begining of a world war if it just happened and you knew about it. It certainly was all they talked about that night. They even gave anyone who wanted it free time off if your family was effected.

i never even thought of this untill reading this thread. thanks.


reply posted on 10-8-2007 @ 11:44 AM by Niall197
www.archive.org...

That site has BBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN & Fox coverage from before the attacks happened all the way through. Might help. I've never watched continuous US coverage so it might help me see where the OP is coming from.

Yeah there was confusion on the day. I was in bed with flu (in Scotland) and the 14.00 hrs BBC radio news bulletin said a light aircraft had crashed into the World Trade Centre. I was so unconcerned I didn't even get out of bed to switch the tv on, fell asleep and slept all the way through. Bit of a shocker waking up later on.


reply posted on 10-8-2007 @ 12:20 PM by rezial666
Go here to see what one group has been posting to the Net, appropriately named "THe Memory Hole"
www.thememoryhole.org...

The most interesting is the 5 min (not 2 min) footage of Bush doing nothing when told of the second plane.

Then Rumsfield's remarks about a "missile"...

"It is a truth that a terrorist can attack any time, any place, using any technique and it's physically impossible to defend at every time and every place against every conceivable technique. Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center. The only way to deal with this problem is by taking the battle to the terrorists, wherever they are, and dealing with them."


Still looking for pre 0900 footage...

[edit on 8/10/07 by rezial666]
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