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reply posted on 10-8-2007 @ 10:44 PM by HaveSeen4Myself
Originally posted by pavil
Who were the anchors then, to the best of your recollection? I have serious doubts as to the details of your memory of the events based on the video records we have. So far all I have seen was widely varying accounts of what was happening before people had any idea what was going on.


I do commend you for sticking to your guns howver. You do realize that their is not much in the way of supporting your viewpoint.


The CNN anchors were Judy Woodruff and another female anchor. 9/11 was her very first day on the job and she buckled under the pressure as if she had no background in television journalism whatsoever. She looked to be about 50 years old. The CNN anchors I am 100% sure about because the new lady looked like a deer in the headlights. Just before the South Tower collapsed a bomb went off at street level. There was a reporter closeby and their mic picked up a massive boom. The new anchor lady actually flinched and ducked her head when this happened.


The FOX anchors IIRC were Shepherd Smith and Brit Hume but not completely sure because they didn't botch it up to the degree of CNN. There were no female anchors at FOX on the morning of 9/11 and they damn sure weren't sitting at a round coffee table. They were at the news desk.

Ultimately you're right about nothing to substantiate these claims in the way of footage. But I conceded that much in the OP. A few ATS'ers vouched for me, which was a pleasant surprise. Maybe more will join me on the crazy train... there are plenty of window seats still available.

Oddities I noticed:

* There was no sense of urgency early on
* The initial reports were of an unconfirmed Cessna
* The camera shot was from a bad angle and out of focus (possibly looped)
* They each took two commercial breaks in the 15 minute span
* They were giving the all clear for both towers of the WTC
* Brokerage employees were being cohersed to go to work
* Street level was not shown until second attack
* No eyewitness accounts until after 9AM
* Terrorism was not seriously considered until the second attack



reply posted on 10-8-2007 @ 11:30 PM by Blue_Jay33
Originally posted by Niall197
www.archive.org...

That site has BBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN & Fox coverage from before the attacks happened all the way through.



That site is gold, to rewatch it live as it happened almost 6 years later knowing that how people were dying and jumping out of windows, and for what, the most evil false flag op ever planned and carried out.
I remember watching the scenes on 9/11 and thinking this doesn't look right, but the government says this is what it is, it must be. What else could it be, and the shock of the whole thing.

Now it makes me so angry and sad at the crimes against humanity that were commited that day.

People need to rewatch this & remember.

One last point for the TV fakery people, how do you discount all those witness's that looked up and SAW and HEARD the plane BEFORE it hit.
After watching this, the TV fakery guys make me just as angry as the false flagging traitors.
These guys are insane apostate truthers or disinfo. masters, either way they damage the movement more than words can say.


reply posted on 11-8-2007 @ 01:46 AM by pavil
Originally posted by HaveSeen4Myself
The CNN anchors were Judy Woodruff and another female anchor. 9/11 was her very first day on the job and she buckled under the pressure as if she had no background in television journalism whatsoever. She looked to be about 50 years old. The CNN anchors I am 100% sure about because the new lady looked like a deer in the headlights. Just before the South Tower collapsed a bomb went off at street level. There was a reporter closeby and their mic picked up a massive boom. The new anchor lady actually flinched and ducked her head when this happened.


Hmmm. CNN transcipts of the pre 9:00 hour show something different than your recollection:

transcripts.cnn.com...

Aaron Brown joins sometime after 9:30.

Your contention is that they have totally replaced the intial broadcast with the ones we current see and have records of?

Sorry I am not convinced.



The FOX anchors IIRC were Shepherd Smith and Brit Hume but not completely sure because they didn't botch it up to the degree of CNN. There were no female anchors at FOX on the morning of 9/11 and they damn sure weren't sitting at a round coffee table. They were at the news desk.


Fox and Friends, their early morning GMA, is never held at a desk and usually is in the chair and table format we see in the video evidence. Breaking news would eventuallly go to a desk/anchor setup. Still looking for Fox's Cable news coverage of the event.




Oddities I noticed:

* There was no sense of urgency early on
* The initial reports were of an unconfirmed Cessna
* The camera shot was from a bad angle and out of focus (possibly looped)
* They each took two commercial breaks in the 15 minute span
* They were giving the all clear for both towers of the WTC
* Brokerage employees were being cohersed to go to work
* Street level was not shown until second attack
* No eyewitness accounts until after 9AM
* Terrorism was not seriously considered until the second attack


Umm what I have seen, which I fully understand is not your recollection of the event is.

* Yes there was confusion about what struck.
* First report we hear on CNN refers to a large 2 engine jet like a 737. Other later eyewitness reports do include a small prop plane.
*I will have to look at the CNN again there is a break just before they start reporting the WTC event.
*I see no "all Clear"
* I see no asking people to come to work
*Sure street level wasn't there prior to 1st plane. Travel time in NY is not instant either.
*I would have to look at the time stamp but there are phone interviews, one happening as the second plane hits.
*Yes I would agree. The CNN male anchor babbles on and on about "maybe it's a navigational error" nonsense. Shortly after the second one they start calling it a terror act.

Some one else can search the CNN transcript to see when Judy W. comes on it is at least after 10:00 from my start of a seach.



reply posted on 11-8-2007 @ 03:58 AM by amicrazy
This is my first post and may be a little off topic but I swear I saw footage of an actual passenger plane
coming in and hitting the Pentagon. Now I only saw this footage once and only once. It was maybe directly
after the attacks or a couple of days after. Now after seeing loose change a year or so ago I remember
thinking whats all the fuss over whether a plane hit the pentagon or not, I saw the footage on the news.
Now obviously there is no footage of a plane hitting the pentagon but I swear I saw what i saw.
Now I live in Australia and i can't remember what news channel it was and I have cable also so it could have been
any one of six or so channels.
I've only been thinking about it after I saw loose change and then I thought ahh well I must have been seeing
things or dreaming. (although I knew I wasn't) and now this post has got me thinking again......
Now let's say I saw what I saw.
Was it a computer simulation showing the viewers what happened? If it was I was unaware it was because
it was as realistic as real it didn't even enter my thoughts that I was watching a "simulation"
The more I think of it the more bewildering it is that I only saw it the once.
Maybe it was a computer simulation meant to be shown as real footage but maybe showing the plane hitting
at a different point on the pentagon wall???? And to be honest I don't recall the area of the impact because I was
just watching the news showing the plane that hit the pentagon right???????? No reason to analize it, it's the news.

Anyway I hope someone else out there can back me up here or I may have to get myself committed!!!

cheers....


reply posted on 11-8-2007 @ 05:13 AM by Pjotr
www.archive.org...

At 38 minutes Karim Arraki Says that he saw the first plane go in and that it was a plane he never saw before...same as the second. So how can those be normal airliners. You will see them every day.

I think that is a strange comment. Seeing an "airliner" and noting that it something you never saw before. Hm, military plane then?


reply posted on 11-8-2007 @ 10:25 AM by bridas
Originally posted by HaveSeen4Myself
When the biggest story of the century initially broke, the reports were sketchy at best. The consensus was that a Cessna type plane had somehow hit the WTC North Tower and the situation was being portrayed as non-threatening.


Here`s a good site to find what you are looking for. I also recommend getting in touch with the owner of
www.911blogger.com... to help you in your search. If anyone can find it, it`ll be him.

Bridas.

8:55 a.m.-8:57 a.m. September 11, 2001: Confusion at NEADS over Identity of Plane That Hit WTC

Master Sergeant Maureen Dooley.Master Sergeant Maureen Dooley. [Source: ABC News]Rumors have started circulating through the civilian air traffic system that the plane that hit the WTC was a small Cessna.

Link to Co-operative Research


reply posted on 11-8-2007 @ 11:20 AM by Ed Littlefox
Originally posted by Pavil

Hmmm. CNN transcipts of the pre 9:00 hour show something different than your recollection:

transcripts.cnn.com...

Aaron Brown joins sometime after 9:30.

Your contention is that they have totally replaced the intial broadcast with the ones we current see and have records of?

Sorry I am not convinced.


There is only one thing I wish to bring to this discussion, and that regards that there is at least "reasonable doubt" that the Official Story is true; whether completely or in part.

Media Transcripts, for both organizational and legal reasons, cannot be automatically considered as accurate, even when such is stated. The same is true of media footage as transmitted. ALL of it has been edited, and some of that editing is done with assistance from outside the Media itself.

The only time this factor doesn't play a role in Broadcasting is when the camera and commentary are "hot". There is a "edit window" on a hot link of between 5 and 16 seconds, depending on whether the link is local/direct of via up-link to a bird. Sometimes, and particularly in the case of an event like 9/11, when ALL of the media are focused on a single point, 5 - 16 seconds is NOT enough time. This fact was both repeated and reiterated in the Katrina Disaster, by a NO TV station, who, despite the collapse of their own transmitting tower, remained on the "air" via live-streaming video on the Internet, for more than 10 days WITHOUT the knowledge of FEMA, The military, or any other federal agency. This is how we ALL found out what a complete FUBAR that "recovery operation" was.

What I am saying is, don't trust "History", or "Washington Truth", (the story told at the end of the day). Understand what you are seeing, what you are reading, and consider the sources and the lapses in time between the event and the publication. Above all else, Listen to, and consider, the eye-witness reports viewed in real time-- the footage you see or witnessed by honest others in real-time, shot live, and broadcast live.

I am going to stick my neck out a little further, and for the good it has the possibility of bringing to this entire 9/11 discussion; et al. I am a professionally trained observer, and spent a LOT of years being paid to do that by________. By virtue of this, I can also spot a DIA in less time than it takes to say the initials. I'll tell you a secret--a real one. If you listen to any person or group long enough, a pattern emerges--and within that pattern is a complete dossier on an individual or group, inclusive of it's true intent. In other words, talk to me or someone who has had the same training and jobs, and you will inadvertently and quite unconsciously tell me your entire life story, including what you do NOT want known. In Investigations like 9/11, I use the same techniques.

Just remember this--wherever and whenever Truth is being purposefully withheld and lies are being told, there will always be contradictions and 'slip-up" statements. The science of it is to catch these--repeatedly--and that is what I, personally, have found to ne the case regarding 9/11. This whole discussion isn't about "supporting a point of view", it is about getting at the Truth regardless of what that is or which way it turns out. We deserve no less as a people than a valid an truthful explanation of this Event and any other of national magnitude. We should strive for, and accept, no less.

I'm done.

[edit on 11-8-2007 by Ed Littlefox]
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