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Topic started on 7-8-2007 @ 08:20 AM by 1234567
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Hi All,
I was thinking today, i have not heard of many moon images made in Infrared. I thought this would have shown up some interesting images.
Now, if what John Lear says is true, wouldnt Infrared images show up some of these bases / subterranian bases / power systems etc ?
The only image i have found is
here
Any ideas ?
Peace.
edit - spelling as usual :-)
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reply posted on 7-8-2007 @ 09:17 AM by johnlear
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Originally posted by 1234567
 Hi All,
I was thinking today, i have not heard of many moon images made in Infrared. I thought this would have shown up some interesting images.
Now, if what John Lear says is true, wouldnt Infrared images show up some of these bases / subterranian bases / power systems etc ?
The only image i have found is
here
Any ideas ? Peace. 
Thanks for the post 12345676. There is certainly no doubt about where Aristarchus is located is there?
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reply posted on 7-8-2007 @ 09:34 AM by RedEyes
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Hi John thanks for the post. I'm fairly new here so bear with me. Where and what is Aristarchus? And in answer to your question, yes John, yes there
is.
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reply posted on 7-8-2007 @ 11:26 AM by 1234567
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Hi John and all...
Thanks for the reply. Im also not sure where/what Aristarchus is ?
here is the image for the thread anyway..
external image
Peace.
edit- sorry i posted teh pic twice...was trying to post it in the thread. hmm
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reply posted on 7-8-2007 @ 11:37 AM by timeless test
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Aristarchus will be somewhere in the top left hand area although there are no really strong white areas there so I'm not sure what John's getting at
assuming that the white areas are the warmest.
Here is a useful annotated map.
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reply posted on 7-8-2007 @ 12:25 PM by 1234567
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Thanks Timeless test, thats really useful
Now those white areas are supposedly the warmest, are we to assume this is warming from the sun in various sized craters ?
Or are we to assume the warm areas are something more sinister ?
Peace.
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reply posted on 7-8-2007 @ 01:28 PM by johnlear
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Originally posted by RedEyes
 Hi John thanks for the post. I'm fairly new here so bear with me. Where and what is Aristarchus? And in answer to your question, yes John,
yes there is. 
Sorry RedEyes, I was being facetious. Aristarchus should be the brightest spot on the moon because it is probably a fission reactor judging by the
color, design and lengths to which the scientific community has gone to cover it up. Here is the infrared photo with some notations:
And here is what Aristarchus really looks like under all of that white paint that NASA puts on it:
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reply posted on 7-8-2007 @ 03:10 PM by timeless test
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Originally posted by 1234567
Now those white areas are supposedly the warmest, are we to assume this is warming from the sun in various sized craters ?

I believe that the major effect you are seeing results from the fact that some areas are made up of rocks which cool more slowly than others after
being in the full sunlight. These rocks tend often to be at the surface in impact craters. I'm no expert but I think that's the point.
As John has said you'd think a fission reactor would look a little warm as well but those sneaky types probably cover it up with a tarpaulin or
something.
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reply posted on 7-8-2007 @ 03:22 PM by johnlear
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Originally posted by timeless test
Actually white-out has worked up to now. Then some darn fool started taking his own pictures instead of relying on the hundreds of billions of
dollars of camera equipment and photos that NASA supplies free of charge. Its an outrage! It's an insult! All those fine people at NASA working night
and day trying to give the public the best and most accurate image processing that money can buy.
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reply posted on 7-8-2007 @ 03:58 PM by Postal76
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That infrared image of the moon is pretty amazing; I can't say that I've seen anything like it before.
And John, you seem to really like that Aristarchus picture. What exactly do you find peculiar about it? Don't the Clementine photos show the same
thing? The color is somewhat odd, but nothing about it says "fission reactor" to me. How did you reach that conclusion?
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reply posted on 7-8-2007 @ 05:10 PM by 1234567
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Thank you John for the image and reply.....excellent information. It really is interesting this infrared imaging, because there is a lot we can see
that is open to suggestion and discussion.
It is also interesting that we only have one or two of these infrared images of the moon.....and i think this is one reason why we at ATS should look
into this, because IR images will always show up more than some agencies want us to see.
thanks for the input....great work John.
Peace.
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reply posted on 7-8-2007 @ 06:26 PM by johnlear
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Originally posted by Postal76
 That infrared image of the moon is pretty amazing; I can't say that I've seen anything like it before.
And John, you seem to really like that Aristarchus picture. What exactly do you find peculiar about it? Don't the Clementine photos show the same
thing? The color is somewhat odd, but nothing about it says "fission reactor" to me. How did you reach that conclusion? 
First of all its the first man-made structure that has been photographed on the moon and posted on the internet. Its arched domed structure is
elegant. The blue is obviously radiation combining with molecules of air. There are obvious roads, one of which goes into the lit rectangular opening
just below or to the west of the dome. There are buildings behind the dome.
With hundreds of times the capability and resolution this is what Clementine got:
This is the usual U.S. Navy hodge podge display of obfuscation. The Navy loves to make inside jokes attempting to ridicule the public. Their
Clementine moon pictures with spiders in craters and snails at Reiner Gamma are really sick jokes but typical of Navy behavior. The real photos can
only be seen if you have the correct algorithmic code and if you don't have that you are more than likely to see flying pigs.
And oh yeah, I know you are going to tell me that you thought Clementine spun out of control and ran out of gas after photographing the moon many
years ago. Oh yeah, forgot to tell you. It was back orbiting earth last year. How did it get back here if it was out of control and out of gas? Ask
the Navy.
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reply posted on 7-8-2007 @ 10:02 PM by johnlear
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Here are 2 photos of Aristarchus. On the first I have drawn just the arrows to the structures I think are there. On the second photo I have outlined
them.
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reply posted on 7-8-2007 @ 10:08 PM by jamestkirk
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this is the only moon photo that i actually can perceive some sort of structure and is the most compelling evidence for me. i have a hard time with
the copernicus photo's.
from what i've read about the end of the clementine mission is that the spacecraft returned to earth for a 'lunar/earth transfer orbit' as planned,
but the craft ended up staying in earth orbit because of a malfunction, burning all of the fuel and causing it to spin at 80 rpm. yet they somehow
managed to get it in a geocentric orbit and pass through the van allen belt. hhhmmm, seems kinda hard to do once you're out of fuel and spinning??
see you on the dark side of the moon...
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jimbo
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reply posted on 7-8-2007 @ 10:17 PM by Quasar
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Wow, John. That is absolutely amazing. At first I was thinking, "this guys a kook." But after illustrating the outline of that structure, I might
be on the first step on agreeing with you. Is this stuff in your Moon Pictures
thread? There's an awful lot to go through in there.
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reply posted on 7-8-2007 @ 10:22 PM by johnlear
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Originally posted by Quasar
 Wow, John. That is absolutely amazing. At first I was thinking, "this guys a kook." But after illustrating the outline of that structure,
I might be on the first step on agreeing with you. Is this stuff in your Moon
Pictures thread? There's an awful lot to go through in there. 
I just did a little work on the top photo so I know it isn't in the moon thread. The bottom photo may be but I can't remember.
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reply posted on 7-8-2007 @ 10:23 PM by jamestkirk
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image source: http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/image/clem_arist.gif
oh, here's another photo of aristarchus from clementine.
well, i guess they did a good job of covering up the reactor.
i want to believe...
jimbo
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reply posted on 7-8-2007 @ 10:35 PM by Quasar
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Hmm, it still has that blue glow... Do 'they' have an explanation of what causes that?
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reply posted on 7-8-2007 @ 10:41 PM by johnlear
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This is a photo taken of Aristarchus by Apollo 15. It was on a weekend after they had rolled up the highways, closed the tunnels, turned off the
reactor and were sipping that famous lunar malt liquor under a saffron colored sky.
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reply posted on 7-8-2007 @ 10:43 PM by johnlear
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Originally posted by Quasar
 Hmm, it still has that blue glow... Do 'they' have an explanation of what causes that? 
Yes. Real poor airbrushing technique.
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