Infrared Moon Images

reply to post by James Random

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Understood.

The anonymous poster who revived the thread did though.

Though a link to the Hubble photo had already been posted in this thread I posted the Hubble photo inline "just in case".

Indeed. The Luna Mystery is interesting though.

Well, ahem, Hubble would be hard pressed to spot an array. Same spectral line, totally different function and architecture.

And I am imagining little robots spinning out carbon fiber strands and glass support towers...

But I digress. For all we know it is just a fresh hole.

reply to post by Matyas

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OK. How about this version.

A composite of a range of wavelengths, from ultraviolet to visible. Still no structure.

I know. I know. That crappy low resolution from Clementine is way more reliable an indicator of what's really there. Either that or the dog (NASA) got to this one too. It's all a sham anyway so what the hell is the point?

Just can't win for losing.

reply to post by Phage

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It just looks so...so much like a natural parabolic reflector...

And no, you still wouldn't see an array, not unless it was powered up. If there were something there, not definitively saying there is, but the likelihood of it being one of ours is... slim to none? The time frame is the stickler.

But the universe is not stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we can imagine.

Now if you could help me build a ship that can cross the 8th dimension, perhaps we'll be getting somewhere...

reply to post by Matyas

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Now you're just being unreasonable. The images clearly indicate that there is nothing there. Photoshop confirms this (I know it sounds mad) but it has methods of contouring images and the contour results I got back from the image I cleaned up showed that it was, indeed, just a crater.

reply to post by James Random

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Allright JR, are you kiddin' or what?

Unless you can spot a hair a block away with binocs, I seriously doubt humble Hubble can get a lock on any hypothetical carbon fiber strand...

But that was for kicks. Speculation, ideas to kick around, to explain the periodic brightening which is revealed in the spectral band as Cherenkov radiation.

A reactor? An array? Both of these produce Cherenkov radiation. Could it be possible there are exotic electric storms taking place inside the crater?

If you have a better explanation, then let it be known. I for one will not settle for anything short of going there to see for myself, as I believe no one really knows why.

Documentation of confirmed Cherenkov radiation observations in Aristarchus crater. Please.

While Cherenkov radiation is predominantly in the ultraviolet, the ultraviolet imagery of Clementine, Hubble, and Earth based telescopes seems to indicate the presence of titanium oxides in the crater ejecta, rather than Cherenkov radiation.

reply to post by Phage

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just as a side note:
that image is not really there. that's a model.

reply to post by Phage

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Certainly!

'Course the mods eliminated some of the pics and links, but it is still there.

I have been thinking, since the Moon's gamma spectrum intensity is greater than the Sun (as seen from Earth?), could the gamma rays be exciting radon gas on the crater floor creating the Cherenkov radiation? It would go a long way to explain all the other little blue lights....

reply to post by Matyas

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I asked for documentation of Cherenkov radiation being observed in Aristarchus crater. A post from Zorgon does not constitute documentation.

That post speaks of ultraviolet emission spectra. Both Hubble and Clementine recorded reflected radiation. It is erroneous and futile to use emission spectra to analyze reflected radiation.

[edit on 4-10-2008 by Phage]

reply to post by Phage

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Well then, kind sir, we have nothing to worry about, as Zorgon's references are not acceptable to you.

I have a cosmic ray to catch, so I must bid this thread farewell for now.

Nuclear reactors would need a cooling tower as on earth.
The simplest of earthly knowledge seems to disapear with
Moon walking wannabes.

Hot spots might be cause by radiation of lower AW compounds
lying on the surface.

If anything is worth while on the moon it might be taking off
surface compounds.

Lithium compounds in rocks found out west are used as hand
warmers. Now thats hot radiation. The rock heats from normal
radiation.