Conservatives: Do you still support The Bush Administration?

Hell ya, I support Bush!!!!!

Then, even I couldn't give you a glass of ice water when you arrive at your final destination.........................HELL!

Originally posted by Taxman
Hell ya, I support Bush!!!!!

Originally posted by DiRtYDeViL
It takes a man to admit he was wrong and move on. I think they can do it and find a new leader.

I admit I was wrong Colonel and you where right.

Originally posted by Colonel
Then, even I couldn't give you a glass of ice water when you arrive at your final destination.........................HELL!

LMAOROFL....that was freakin' hilarious.
Rich, very rich.
Did I forget to say "lack of originality" also.

Very funny man......



regards
seekerof

Originally posted by Seekerof


LMAOROFL....that was freakin' hilarious.
Rich, very rich.

Did I forget to say "lack of originality" also.

Very funny man......

regards
seekerof

Sppppppt! Hey, don't tell anyone but CYNTHIA MCKINNEY IS COMING BACK!

Originally posted by Colonel
Sppppppt! Hey, don't tell anyone but CYNTHIA MCKINNEY IS COMING BACK!

Don't get your hopes up diebold won't allow it. If they can't rig it so she looses then she will suffer the same fate is jfk,rfk,mlk.

Fry2: You just went with a crap number...12380 (rounded up) is the more correct number if you remove the people under 18 and those over 65 (typically retired). 12380 working age "minorities" is not alot of people whenever you are talking about a state. Also, if it is about those "black or brown" people the number dwindles to 62 "black or brown" people of working age in Vermont. 149 people are of mixed race. I'm not sure what the percent of that is "black or brown" people, so lets say at most half of that number. The number is now at 137 people with at least some "black or brown" people heritage who are of working age in the massive state of Vermont. So the new percentage of people with "black or brown people" heritage and of working age in contrast of the entire population of the state is....drum roll please...0.0225%. Is it impossible for Dean to have not had anyone who was qualified and "black or brown" for a job in his cabinet or interns or whatevers he has to hire? No. Improbable? No. This is just a way to make Dean look bad. What's worse it is someone from his own party.

I was going with numbers from the census. Here is a sample of some of the data: factfinder.census.gov...

Admittedly, Vermont is a VERY whitebread state. I'm mostly just having fun with Herr Colonel. I don't even follow Dean enough to bother looking at his record as a governor of a 700,000 population state. I don't like any of my current choices so I will continue to wait it out.

I still have to laugh every time Colonel calls me a "repugnant". Coming in here to toss a bit of mud at him always produces the same smile on my face when he reacts. Life is good.

Originally posted by Seekerof


So I guess, between you and BT, this was a set-up thread to further your own agendas by bashing those "repugnents" that did post to this thread?
I'm won't speak for BT, but you are a very funny guy!

regards
seekerof

I'm funny!
Seek, in no way, shape, or form do I post with a "set up" in mind.
I enjoys ATS for the quality of the membership; most having done the due diligence of research on their core subject of interests.
So, with a clinical detachment, I wanted to see the reasoning behind why someone would still be on the Bush Bus.
I waived the first results in 2000 because although Gore was an infinitely more qualified candidate and anyone who did a record check of Bush's Texas when he got it versus when he left it wouldn't logically vote for him, we still were faced with an extremely negative packaging of Gore that overrode many peoples sesibilities. Even with that, he still won by half a million.
THis is actually my second thread on the theme; the first was "Why does Bush deserve a second term".
My findings?
A near pathological nihilistic response from the Right, completely void of qualifing reasons to their choices. Responses of "nothing better" or "I'll abstain" being the mainstay to their thought process.
Given the fact that the Dem President will be dealing with a GOP Congress, there are most definitely better choices in the Dem front runner, since we'll be leagues away from the "absolute power corrupts absolutely" soci-politico experiment we have going now.
Abstaining would be the most heinous of choices: we are exactly in the predicament we are in now as a Nation because very low voter turn out makes the energizing of small, but vocal, voting blocs appear as the illusion of mandate; one , which given their small number is easy to satiate, giving the next low turn out cycle a fait complit false perception.

VOTE, Damn it!

Originally posted by Bout Time

VOTE, Damn it!

Damn straight, and all above well said!

I want a mandate this time, one way or the other. If it's poison all around, choose your poison people.

I'm actually going to vote in the Presidential election for the first time (could have last time, but didn't). I'm for the Democratic candidate, whomever that my be. Hopefully it won't be Dean, but I'll vote for him anyway.

Eh, but my vote won't count anyway seeing as how we have this idiotic electoral college system (I'm registered in Texas).

Why I might vote for Bush: He may be a republican but he's pissing off a lot of conservatives with his spending, big government, etc. That said, he's still closer to conservative issues that I'm interested in. Tax cuts, school vouchers, SS reform, defense, etc. We're not going to see that from a dem president; conservative issues that I like won't be in the forefont (Now, I hope if he's re-elected he'll finally moves on some of those issues :roll

To be honest, I really don't see anything better. I think the good candidates aren't going to get the nomination. (or, aren't running) If it were Bush v. Kerry, I might vote Kerry. But, Dean v. Bush I'd probably stick with Bush.
After all, it's a referendum on the incumbent and there�s still a lot of time left.

Where's the straight talk express when ya need it?

Originally posted by Bob88
Where's the straight talk express when ya need it?

Try Wesley Clark.

Do ANY of you repugnants feel stupid or angry yet for being taken for a fool?

[Edited on 13-1-2004 by Colonel]

To slide back on the black/brown issue: it was more upsetting that he tried to talk around the issue. He could've said no...he's supposed to be a "shoot from the hip" type of politican. When Rev. Al asked him point blank he went into to his stuttering routine and looked like a deer caught in the headlights. Besides all the census crap...if he has to search for answers and stutter while getting shifty and nervous before he comes out with the truth then I question his motives. He didn't want folk to know the truth...but to his credit he did come out with it after Rev. Al didn't let it go...and the flag thing is still on my mind because one--I don't like the flag and anyone who raises is to me has racial issues and two--he looked less than qualified for president when he tried to explain it away.

I prefer Clark. Though, I believe we should have a flat tax, instead of a progressive one. And, I don't like all the tax breaks going to one segment of the population, I'm willing to support it if the segment you choose is the american family--they are the ones that need the most help. I like Clark's tax plan cause it's fair and it will solve the defict problem without hurting middle class families...I'm starting to get a better picture of Edwards too...if you add in Edwards programs for new home buyers and college tuitions to Clark's tax plan and forgein policy experience you'll have really good ticket. And, my pessimism will go away.

Originally posted by Saphronia
To slide back on the black/brown issue: it was more upsetting that he tried to talk around the issue. He could've said no...he's supposed to be a "shoot from the hip" type of politican. When Rev. Al asked him point blank he went into to his stuttering routine and looked like a deer caught in the headlights. Besides all the census crap...if he has to search for answers and stutter while getting shifty and nervous before he comes out with the truth then I question his motives. He didn't want folk to know the truth...but to his credit he did come out with it after Rev. Al didn't let it go...and the flag thing is still on my mind because one--I don't like the flag and anyone who raises is to me has racial issues and two--he looked less than qualified for president when he tried to explain it away.

I prefer Clark. Though, I believe we should have a flat tax, instead of a progressive one. And, I don't like all the tax breaks going to one segment of the population, I'm willing to support it if the segment you choose is the american family--they are the ones that need the most help. I like Clark's tax plan cause it's fair and it will solve the defict problem without hurting middle class families...I'm starting to get a better picture of Edwards too...if you add in Edwards programs for new home buyers and college tuitions to Clark's tax plan and forgein policy experience you'll have really good ticket. And, my pessimism will go away.

Saphronia, you need to understand that race is a delicate issue, particularly for a white person but Dean has the intestinal fortitude to discuss it. To be ambushed by a running mate you considered an ally (b/c I thought he did) would take anyone off-guard. This is the first time Sharpton ever attacked Dean! I thought it was below the belt personally.

And on the flag issue, the media twisted his words. His words were ones of American unity not divided by race. He meant that the only way Dems can win is to call upon the poor Southern whites (who are repugnants) and tell them the TRUTH of what their party is doing to them economically as they play the racist card and blame it on the minorities.

That is what he meant. And I agree.

Colonel
He meant that the only way Dems can win is to call upon the poor Southern whites (who are repugnants) and tell them the TRUTH of what their party is doing to them economically as they play the racist card and blame it on the minorities.

How do you know what people mean to say? Why is it that what ever you say is the truth? If someone says something bad about the Republicans--it's true, but if they say it about the Democrats--it's a lie. Your accusations hold no ground. You've been caught up in your own imagination and can no longer discern what is real, and what is fabrication. You wish so badly to be right that you believe everything that could possibly support your crude opinion.

Now I know you won't like what I'm saying and you'll probably reply with a really stupid answer like, "you're a racist" or "you're such a moron", but just remember that I called you on it. I may not support Bush on everything, but I do believe he IS going to be the lesser of to evils in the upcoming election. That is, unless Leiberman catches up and wins the Dems ticket, but I don't see that coming. You idiots don't even know when you have a good candidate running. Instead you support some rich snob who grew up on Park Avenue, and who doesn't even pretend to be an average working man.

You need to open your eyes Colonel, and I'm not just saying that to piss you off. I'm saying it because I believe you are an intelligent person, and could probably help this world out if you weren't such an ignorant dolt. You don't even bother trying to look at it from another person's perspective. I don't want you to be a Republican, it's fine that your a Democrat, just remember that this country needs balance. We don't need the elimination of one of the parties, but we do need the elimination of the extreminsts supporting and steering them.(i.e.-Rush, Dean, Colonel, Hannity, ect...)

Think about it, remember that I'm not some far right-wing facist nazi lunatic, and that you're not a far left-wing socialist/communist tree #er.

I agree with bob88. Bush is closer to my way of thinking than any democrat will ever be. I am against gay marriage, welfare abuses and the like. I think that it's time we kick some ass and not lay down like a welcome mat anymore. I believe in God and Jesus Christ, I believe in my right to have guns and protect myself. I believe in protecting our nation at all costs. Liberals freak too much about rights being taken away. Our rights will be taken away the day we are invaded because liberals cut the defense budget to support some pansy ass social program. Bull#.

The above is the type of vile repugnant I've been describing all along. Believing in JAYZUS WHILE CONDEMING THE POOR TO MISERY. WON'T EVEN GIVE THEM A DOLLAR FOR THE MC'DS DOLLAR MENU! CAN I GET AN AMEN?!

You're going to Hell with Bush and i can't help you after that.

[Edited on 14-1-2004 by Colonel]

I will help no man who acts like a sponge and soaks it all up, I will help those who help themselves, and I don't mean to the free cheese in the welfare line.