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reply posted on 21-7-2007 @ 02:56 PM by zorgon
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Originally posted by Darth Logan
I thought I would throw this in. Which is a U.S. Patent that was granted on November 10, 2005 for anti-gravity propulsion.
Thanks for your post and link. I see you are new here so welcome.
Next time you post a link use this symbol on the posting screen...
Click on that and type in a short label like
Here is the Link to the Patent
hit okay and paste the link....
Now also its good to read the threads, because I had just posted this same patent on this page  I am glad though you found this independently so at
least someone is paying attention
I have finished updating my patent files... and the original documents are now available in full. If anyone has any others that they feel would be
good to add just give me the patent number, and name of inventor is possible and I will add it to the collection.
It has taken a lot of work to find these and obtain the original documents and they are free from my site. It is always hoped that one or two people
will actually read some of them before debunking stuff
I even found the Lockheed Saucer patent so all I need now is Tesla's... It may be possible that he never actually filed it, and only wrote intent to
file... but I don't have those papers yet either...
Pegasus Patent Database
Here is the"Space vehicle propelled by the pressure of inflationary vacuum state"
Patent US6960975
Here is the Lockheed Martin "High velocity high altitude v.t.o.l. aircraft" dated 1963
Patent US3103324
Here is U.S. Air Force's Nuclear Flying Saucer
On Dec. 12, 1962, security officers at Wright-Patterson classified the LRV as secret because: "It describes an offensive weapon system." The project
remained classified until May 1999, when a congressionally mandated review of old documents changed the project's status as a government secret,
downgrading it to public information. The Department of Defense did, however, successfully seek to have the document's distribution restricted to
defense contractors. PM obtained its copy as the result of a Freedom of Information Act request.
SOURCE
No I don't have the patent on this one... seems my source doesn't include top secret patent access
The next task will be my video collection. They will not be viewable online, but available for download. I made an error not keeping the original
youtube ID but will try and add that info as well
One other note I do not have time to monitor two threads on this and will only be posting in one for now...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
So if you have any goodies for me drop on by...
Also the data is compiled here...
Brotherthe big Files
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reply posted on 22-7-2007 @ 12:28 AM by mikesingh
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Originally posted by Access Denied
You and Mike make a great ATS disinformation spamming team! Keep up the good work.
P.S. Tell Master Disinformant John Lear to check out the “Acknowledgments” page of this report before he makes a fool out of himself again
dissing my employer.
Oh boy! So what do we have here? An all knowing specialist dude who is the authority on whatever is happening in this world. The be-all and the
know-all!  You see, he's got ALL the information on ALL the black projects in the US of A and Russia since the dawn of time!
So if you wanna know what the heck is happening just contact Access Denied! But hey, would he deny us access to all the secret stuff he knows??
P.S. Can someone ask him to improve his spellings and written expression? Gets pretty exasperating at times!  Hey there's an on-line spell
checker too, in case he didn't know!!
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reply posted on 22-7-2007 @ 01:07 AM by mikesingh
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Check out this one..David Bushman, Lockheed Martin's senior research scientist, on 'other forms of energy' and gravity cancellation.
And this is what Ben Rich, former Head of Lockheed Skunk Works had to say…
”We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to
ever get them out to benefit humanity….anything you can imagine we already know how to do.”
Excerpted from the YouTube clip above
So, perhaps may never get to know what the heck is actually going on, and this sucks!!
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reply posted on 22-7-2007 @ 01:16 AM by VType
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Yes it seems Nasa acknowledges Anti-Gravity in theorie yet seems to show little interest in telling any more. Even though many Military Industries are
and have been geared for advanced power systems and follow ons techs of many types. But until Nasa advertises it as fact some will never consider it
no matter how solid your case.
Geez if you think they need all those Nevada Resourses for just rocketry and nuke tests and 50's-60's technology well then I guess weve spent far
too much $$$$ and such secrecy as well for what??? Gosh Id hope with the military running wild with so much $$$ for so long would at least be able too
achieve something besides the Moon shots and the Trillion dollar sattelite called the Space Station.
The beauty is that every day that passes more and more folks who know or could know of these secrets have a chance too tell someone they confide in.
Its been happening a lot lately and more will come I believe.
Which would be the best place for Anti- Grav base? Antartica or The Artic Region??
And there's quite a bit of scientiffic reads on this subject on google as well as books.

Another nice thread and flagged.
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reply posted on 22-7-2007 @ 05:37 AM by mikesingh
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This is what astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell had to say…
”With regard to the technology itself, I work with folks who do know what is in our technological data base and what is available to modern
armies. The so-called ET technology, the ability to have silent engines and flying machines that make no sound, flying machines that have the
characteristics that are consistent with reproduction of UFO sightings, are not in any nation’s arsenal, but they do exist.
So if there are back engineered technologies existing, they are probably in the hands of this group of individuals, formerly government, formerly
perhaps intelligence, formerly, under private sector control with some sort of oversight by military or by government. But this (oversight) is likely
no longer the case as a result of this access denied category that is now operating. I call it a clandestine group. The technology is not in our
military arsenals anywhere in the world, but it does exist, and to me that's quite disconcerting.”
www.ufoevidence.org...
From the horse’s mouth, like what the scientists of Lockheed Martin’s Skunk Works have disclosed!
So if this technology is not available to the military at present, then how and where is it being used by this secretive black government? Trips to
the Moon and probably Mars in line with 'Alternative 3'? Seems outlandish!! But do we know EVERYTHING that's going on?
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reply posted on 22-7-2007 @ 10:38 AM by Darth Logan
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Zorgon, thank you for the help! I am sorry for posting something that was already brought up. Please don't think I'm just skimming over the thread.
I just got caught up in the moment and somehow missed your post.
Looks like I have alot of reading to do after viewing your website. And I love the pictures you posted! I give two thumbs up for you and Mike for all
your research you guys have done on this subject! 
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reply posted on 23-7-2007 @ 05:15 PM by zorgon
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Originally posted by Darth Logan
Zorgon, thank you for the help! I am sorry for posting something that was already brought up. Please don't think I'm just skimming over the thread.
I just got caught up in the moment and somehow missed your post.
LOL No problem I an guilty of that myself when I skim new threads looking for something
Looks like I have alot of reading to do after viewing your website. And I love the pictures you posted! I give two thumbs up for you and Mike for all
your research you guys have done on this subject! 
Thanks More to come after I do a revamp of the site... Its grown to fast with no easy to find order... and I just got a new "member" that is an
image expert and boy is he onto something! I am working on permissions and stuff now and will put together his info as soon as my new computer is set
up.
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reply posted on 24-7-2007 @ 02:09 AM by mikesingh
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Originally posted by zorgon
...will put together his info as soon as my new computer is set up.
Ron, why don't you take mine? It's for sale, but you can have it for free!  It's a top-of-the-line 486 with 8 megs of RAM and a 500mb disc.
(300mb of which has been taken up by Win 95 and a trial version of Win 98!) And oh yes, it's got DOS ver 7.0 too! Lol! (Shipping charges extra!)
Cheers!
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reply posted on 24-7-2007 @ 03:02 PM by zorgon
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Originally posted by mikesingh
Ron, why don't you take mine? It's for sale, but you can have it for free!  It's a top-of-the-line 486 with 8 megs of RAM and a 500mb disc.
(300mb of which has been taken up by Win 95 and a trial version of Win 98!) And oh yes, it's got DOS ver 7.0 too! Lol! (Shipping charges extra!)
Nice machine Mike  You know you can launch moon rockets and shuttles with that equipment
But thanks anyway... I do appreciate the offer. I just picked up an HP with 2.8 GHz Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Dual-Core Processor chip. 2 -500 gig hard
drives 3 gig memory, NVIDIA GeForce 8 series graphics processing unit, DVD_RW/CD-RW, and it comes with a built in TV unit with remote control, Laser
Mouse, Fancy keyboard.. and all sorts of gadgets
Its running Microsoft Vista has Norton and Microsoft Office 7.0 plus other stuff... All for the whopping cost of 796.00 +7.5 % tax with a 50.00 mail
in rebate.. So I figured I would toss in a 19" Sony screen for 198.00
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reply posted on 24-7-2007 @ 11:21 PM by mikesingh
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Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by mikesingh
Ron, why don't you take mine? It's for sale, but you can have it for free!  It's a top-of-the-line 486 with 8 megs of RAM and a 500mb disc.
(300mb of which has been taken up by Win 95 and a trial version of Win 98!) And oh yes, it's got DOS ver 7.0 too! Lol! (Shipping charges extra!)
Nice machine Mike  You know you can launch moon rockets and shuttles with that equipment
No kiddin'! You know they landed Apollo with Armstrong aboard, on an inhospitable Moon with less power than that?  How? Hmmm...are we talking
alien technology here?  Or HOW ON EARTH DID THEY LAND ON THE MOON? (pun unintended!!  )
Cheers!
P.S. I wanna play Donkey kong and Space Invaders. Can I borrow your equipment?
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reply posted on 25-7-2007 @ 12:41 AM by V Kaminski
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MIT built the AGC (Apollo Guidance Computer) and there were according to some, 75 complete units produced including training mules and software sim
crushers... there are pics around the Net.
It was wasn't built for speed with a 50,000 hour MTBF - reliabilty was the key. Every single component was custom made. 2K's 16-bit RAM and 36K of
core rope wire memory cascade aren't gonna win any tractor-pulls either. Just enough for the the job and no more - no less.
Amazing task prioritization for the time. Highest priority event "call" wins... the exec was run in 2K. Programming was in Assembly and reverse
Polish. For those with an interest try a Goggle for "Apollo 1202 Alarm". The interface was a sort of numeric keypad and LCD character display.
These 75 computers could tolerate errors in running app functions and not take out the exec. No AGC flown ever experienced a hardware related failure
- only human error expressed in software. Over-demand for memory was handled by giving the option to restart the affected software or shutting it off
freeing that memory space for addressing without a core dump. It was so "smart" it knew when it had an software error in progress and warned the
crew via klaxon and light.
Was it big? No, not physically. It was "BIG" in every other way. Wanna land a LEM on the Moon? 38 years ago? That was how it was done.
Cheers,
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reply posted on 25-7-2007 @ 01:22 AM by mikesingh
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Wow, Vic! You sure know your beans!!  But darn! Some of what you've said sounds Greek to me!  Anyway, so that's how they did it! With 2K's
16-bit RAM and 36K of core rope wire memory! Nothing to write home about. But heck, I can't believe that's enough for a Moon landing!
Thanks for the info.
Cheers!
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reply posted on 25-7-2007 @ 02:46 AM by zorgon
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Originally posted by V Kaminski
Was it big? No, not physically. It was "BIG" in every other way. Wanna land a LEM on the Moon? 38 years ago? That was how it was done.
Nah They used anti gravity and had the "Peekaboo's" watching over them.  I don't buy for a minute that they shut off the motors before touchdown
to explain the "no blast craters"
I also hear that when they bought new computers the Intel chip had a small error... and they said on the news its nothing to worry about, unless you
were a rocket scientist going to the moon...
That had to be the all time blooper in history, seeing as they were selling them to NASA... just what did they think they DO at NASA?
But great info Vic
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reply posted on 25-7-2007 @ 02:24 PM by V Kaminski
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LOL. I can agree to disagree most agreeably, agreed? I'm greedy.
Do I believe that NASA - Apollo landed on the Moon? Yup.
Is that the "end of story" or the "complete unabridged version" of the much-storied story? No, no, not by half and then some; only the
"introduction" to the "setting" for the "pre-quel" of which only "boot-legs" are given "the treatment" while "casting" for the
"lead-role" in a "film-noire" with a cast of thousands and four decades in the making. High production values - Kubrick must be smiling-beyond. I
recommend Storey Musgrave for the "lead" - he has "acting" experience, actually.
That "story" and "history" does have some problems of continuity with parallel and convergent and divergent sub-plots and the "sequel" has a
"Vision", a shooting schedule, and quite likely "all kinds of completion-insurance" just to "make sure" we can't be completely sure.
Got a ticket? The "wrap-party" ought to be "out of this world".
Cheers,
Vic
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reply posted on 26-7-2007 @ 02:49 AM by darkheartrising
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Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by Outrageo
Really? Assuming you're not just pulling our leg(s), can you elaborate, Z?
Well no I am not pulling your leg, though that was an inside comment to Mike
Which 3-letter club?
Need to know basis... and you don't
pardon my french but it pisses me off when we get upset at NASA and the government for not releasing information and here ZORGON is telling OUTRAGEO
that "its on a need to know basis and he dont need to know" WTF??? i thought we were here to learn and SHARE the truth!
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reply posted on 26-7-2007 @ 03:08 AM by mikesingh
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Originally posted by darkheartrising
pardon my french but it pisses me off when we get upset at NASA and the government for not releasing information and here ZORGON is telling OUTRAGEO
that "its on a need to know basis and he dont need to know" WTF??? i thought we were here to learn and SHARE the truth!
Jaaa! You've got a point there!!
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reply posted on 26-7-2007 @ 03:22 AM by darkheartrising
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Originally posted by Access Denied
P.S. Tell Master Disinformant John Lear to check out the “Acknowledgments” page of this report before he makes a fool out of himself again
dissing my employer.
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IMHO this is the guy to watch...ACCESS DENIED, he is the real deal.
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reply posted on 26-7-2007 @ 09:57 AM by newkid
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Originally posted by mikesingh
Check out this one..David Bushman, Lockheed Martin's senior research scientist, on 'other forms of energy' and gravity cancellation
This theory is no more better than what happen when you put a person in an elevator and drop them all the suddenly they become weightless, the person
inside the elevator gravity field get cancelled.
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reply posted on 26-7-2007 @ 10:04 AM by newkid
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I have a half cent theory about the gravity here it is "what if we live in a black hole, that every planet and star has a black hole inside, and that
gravity is the effect of the event horizon field, and magnetic field and electromagnetic field are the effect are the effect of the single field
theory. ahh do I get a Nobel Prize?
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reply posted on 26-7-2007 @ 07:22 PM by zorgon
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Originally posted by darkheartrising "its on a need to know basis and he dont need to know" WTF??? i thought we were here to learn and
SHARE the truth!
First of all it was a joke...
Second of all... Share the truth? All we can do is share our opinions, our research and our theories... but on that "need to know " thingy, you
don't need to know who my personal contacts are, and you won't , because then I would not have such contacts. However it is at times in my interest
to hint.
Third... As you believe AD is the "real deal" I would suggest you take a close look at his resume  Nice guy to share a beer with, maybe, but I
have yet to see someone in top level "need to know" jobs with long hair
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