Originally posted by MajorMalfunction
what is it in (certain) Christian churches that do not allow for people to believe in what is scientific fact?
In many cases, science is in direct opposition to religion. It's like a test. They have to choose one.
I used to marvel at how brilliant my mother was, but then she'd choose fantasy over pure, clear logic and her reasoning was "Because God said."
It's like there was a wall beyond which she was unwilling to go.
It's called FAITH
That's true faith. When a person can see one thing in front of them and totally deny it for something not proven, that's faith. That's why science
and religion in their purest forms cannot go up against each other. Because religion has faith on its side. Nothing can "beat" an idea that someone
to believe in the face of all things contrary.
Is it simply that people don't want to face the truth?
Hell, no! They HAVE
the truth! (as far as they're concerned) There's nothing to face. The truth is right in front of them. Their faith in the
story rises above all else.
If you don't understand how they can reject science for religion, then you don't understand faith.
I really want to understand this "faith" thing.
Do you believe that when we die, we simply return to the earth?
Are you sure?
Are you absolutely certain?
If you are, then you understand faith.
It's simply surety without proof (in its strongest and purest form).
Is there any way to reach across this divide between faith and reason?
No. Why should we? If you are sure you have the truth, and they are sure they have the truth, why must we both believe the same thing?
Try to grasp this thought, which is in my belief system:
I believe that 2 people can disagree, and both be right.
Or is it a hopeless endeavor, and one that will eventually work itself out as science continues to advance and reveal more and more of the answers to
the mysteries of our universe?
It's only hopeless if you're attached to the idea of everyone believing the same thing as far as creation/evolution, etc. Let go of the expectation
that we should all have the same truth. Have yours and accept that others have theirs. Because really? There's only one way to find out who's really
"right". And on the day you die, IF
you have a feeling of soaring up into the sky and you see a bright light and feel love all around you
like you've never imagined in all your dreams... Then you can say, "Oops"!
But until then, your "faith" is really no different than anyone else's. Because nobody alive knows for sure. That's where the agnostic in me
really comes out. Because we may return to the earth, we may soar up to heaven, or there may be third, fourth and fifth alternatives. Maybe what
happens depends on what we believe... If there are other dimensions (which I personally believe) there's no knowing.
And I'm comfortable with that.
(I'm not preaching agnosticism, just sharing my beliefs and thoughts.)
[edit on 13-7-2007 by Benevolent Heretic]