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Originally posted by isitmagic
great lakes ... a lot of fonts now are based off of older typewriters and scripts
Originally posted by keeb333
Sophismata: my point is exactly the opposite. IF this paticular disclosure happens to NOT be a hoax, then it would go a long way toward explaining some of the crop circles.
Originally posted by greatlakes
Definitely looks close, same type of font (family?), but not exact. My point is if this is a hoax, the person must have used a certain font in typing out the document, this font has to be able to be found, unless its obsolete, outdated, which would lend on the side of NOT HOAX. Of course a really thorough hoaxer would create modifications to existing fonts, which is in itself alot of work. You basically have to create each letter and symbols to match...
Good work BTW, I'm terrible with fonts and such Let us know if you're continuing the search and find anything.
[edit on 6/26/2007 by greatlakes]
Originally posted by Sophismata
And let's see if this Palo Alto document guy provides corroborating evidence.
Adobe Systems in 1984 was a fledgling company formed by Chuck Geschke and John Warnock, two engineers from Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Center). While at Xerox, the pair had invented a Page Description Language (PDL) called Interpress, which was a means of mathematically describing complex forms like typefaces. When Xerox decided not to commercialize Interpress, Geschke and Warnock left Xerox PARC and co-founded Adobe Systems. Interpress evolved into PostScript and was brought to market in late 1984.
Originally posted by Sophismata
The ONLY reason you think crop circle similarities to patterns in these documents supports the genuineness of these docs is because you ALREADY believe that crop circles are not all man made. A point which HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN and is not AT ALL widely accepted outside the UFO belief and conspiracy communities.
Originally posted by alevar
Wow, I'm going out of my mind just trying to catch up to everyone so far, but there's one thing I can contribute:
I'm as sure as I think I can be about the fonts. The first is Palatino (used for the body text), and the second is Franklin Gothic (used for titles). Both are very old fonts that predate 1986 by quite a while. They're also common choics for reports and that kind of work (and have been for decades), so they make sense at least. This doesn't "prove" anything, but at the very least, I'm quite certain that we can't debunk it on the basis of typefaces.
BTW - for reference, I used to work in desktop publishing and have a number of graphic designer friends. So I have SOME credentials. I'm not in the business anymore but you never forget the common fonts.
Originally posted by mbkennel
It's a dreadful hoax. Way worse than Titor or even early Serpo.
The "science" sucks and is written at a level for high-schoolers. No answering any useful question.
And 'inches'? So, they're gonna talk about in English units irrelevant crap about how big it is in the report, rather than what the physics and effects of antigravity is?
Originally posted by Whiterabbit29
One thing I'm slightly confused about is the censoring on some of the documents. I wonder If this is the way they were given to him, or has he done this himself?
Originally posted by -Jaguar-
This person reveals a lot of information about themselves, enough I would think to pinpoint who they are, which leads me to believe it's fake. He works in Computer Science, worked there 1984-1987, and was promoted to management.
Originally posted by Evasius
Hoax or not, it's an intriguing story.
Originally posted by solarwind
Hmm, deliberately downgraded versions. Makes me wonder if Bill Gates didn't have a mole in PACL!
Originally posted by SaucyRossy
Originally posted by Evasius
Hoax or not, it's an intriguing story.
Any one read my post on page four about these kind of statements?
I really think we need to stop this disturbing thought process of "even if it is a hoax it is a great read!"
That is just the wrong way to look at things like this in my opinion.