Hah, good luck trying to get that money out of people! If someone comes knocking at my door demanding money, i'll just give them the one finger salute.

Also, im a student, so good luck trying to get £2000 out of me!

And if you refuse (which I will) to provide any information, such as a change of address, just how are the authorities going to track you down or send 'final demand' letters to demand payment???

The sheer genius of beauracracy in action

Citizen smith,


Thanks so much for your advice. I will keep this in mind. But, yeah it looks like I will be doing a lot of changing to my address. I can’t believe their doing this. It makes it very hard on people like me.

It's just one more way the government is saying don't go anywhere, without letting us know first. We want to know were you are at all times. Bet you would have more luck with a Stalker ex, then with the government.

Is a P.O. Box not technically an address? Can virtual adresses be used? Find a work around and when they try to put you in jail for it, point out their own stupidity to them.

Although at the rate things are going, just try to avoid having problems with them, because of the stupidity thing I mentioned earlier, they would probably still try to lock you up.

It's just so sad to see the frog get cooked by yet one more degree. They keep turning up the heat, and very few are noticing, or caring. (Reference is to someones excellent analogy about a frog who goes into boiling hot water who notices right away, vs a frog who goes into cold water that get's turned up ever so slowly, and they don't notice it.)

Oh Lord, here we go again - panic in the streets.

It is already an offence punishable by fines of up to £1000 not to update your address on the Electoral Roll or at the DVLA, (fines which are almost never imposed).

Whether you like the idea of ID cards or not, (personally I'm wholly unconcerned about the idea), the horrific cost of the scheme makes it an absolute imperative that it is properly administered once we have it.

Just why would anyone be so anti telling their elected Government where they are living currently? I would guess that many of those who complain would also scream blue murder if their benefit payments didn't drop on to their doormats at the correct address however.