98% sure Hostile Aliens dont exist.(or if they do they most certainly dont have interstellar travel

Originally posted by Ghaele
Answers;
lack of military symbols; eyewithnesses have so far not mentioned any symbols at all. And no aliens have, to my knowledge, shouted commands. For there to be a military there has to be a military command structure where the leaders is recognized in some form or other.

No, they're not answers at all. It's conjecture on your part. Show me a link that gives witness testimony data that supports your position. Furthermore, how would humans even recognise what an alien military symbol would look like in the first place?

Explain 'to my knowledge' in a referenced, verifiable way. You can't, as you just made that claim up to support your opinion.

You are making up data to support your opinion, therefore your whole opinion is WORTHLESS.

Originally posted by kronos11

Originally posted by kronos11

1. Why have they continued to sit in the shadows and abduct us in our sleep all this time while we continually pollute a possible colony planet, expire all available natural resources, and infect and toxify future slaves??

I think it's funny that not one person answered this but yet everyone still continues to wonder if there are hostile aliens or not.

I love the fact that you had to quote your own post because although it made sense.. no one responded. People love to argue if you give a logical answer .. that might end the argument.. it is ignored. This happens to me all the time too.
Its sad really. Im gonna give you way above though.. because you deserve it.

My belief is that the benevolent groups of advanced civilizations are even more technologically advanced than the malevolent groups of advanced civilizations and prevent them from expanding too far and wide.

note: I used 'groups'. I don't believe civilizations are entirely good or evil, but have good or evil individuals within the civilizations.


[edit on 11-4-2007 by curiousbeliever]

Originally posted by Mayan2012
Hi, guys

im starting this thread to help tone things down on alot of threads ive seen about "oooo invaders,oooo hostile aliens,destroying earth" etc etc etc

Well i want to make a few things clear.

Of course these r my opinions and u dont have to read them. but i ask for no flames or nasty , snide remarks. thank you


Ok....so the question ive heard alot "are aliens hostile? would they make slaves of us? would they destroy earth" and so on.

Well i think Not. and i will tell you why

Because ANY race of aliens life that has lived long enough to achieve Interstellar Travel would have LONG since abandoned Wars,Terror,Poverty,and Crime. maybe even so that religions dont exist (since religion is the 90% cause of most wars today)

and i think the idea of a race of beings that has come millions of light years just to cause a war is pretty absurd.

Humanity believe it or not HAS been on the virge of destroying itself quite a few times,because of wars,nuclear bombs etc(Cold War...if that would have happened ...i mean if USA and Russia would have sent nukes at each other there would be no life on earth right now)


Pls feel free to comment my opinions and ideas.

Nuthin But Peace -Mayan



[edit on 4/9/2007 by Mayan2012]

They come thousands of light years to enslave us. Why? Because they can. Think about it, except for human morality, having a slave is great. Back in the 1600s down in the south, if you were a slave owner, you had all the free labor you could handle, people to lord over and abuse, and all the booty you could handle.

It is a fact that southern slave owners were completely out of controll as far as knocking up their slaves was concerned. Google: plantation owners impregnating slaves.

For sport, they didn't have football, or baseball games on the plantation, they had fun with their slaves, making them compete against each other.

You think aliens are any different? Please! Just one look at our weakness, and propensity for violence and it's, "What can we do to get in on this sweet action?"

That was the aliens speaking by the way.

It's obvious you don't read much, because there is an abundance of information about this country's involvement with alien races that have evil intent since the 1950s. Haven't you ever heard of William cooper? The government killed him by the way.
www.thewatcherfiles.com...

So get your head out of Star Trek, and the "Prime Directive." You want love, and peace, worship God; He/She is an expert at it. In the material world, you can never have enough of a good thing. And violence is still the greatest pastime in the universe, especially when you're technologically advanced and have better weapons.

Keep thinking they intend you no harm. You'll be one of the morons on top of the building, like in Independance Day, waiving a sign that says, "Welcome brother aliens"
and wind up donating your butt for some evil alien intentions. Yikes!

"1. Why have they continued to sit in the shadows and abduct us in our sleep all this time while we continually pollute a possible colony planet, expire all available natural resources, and infect and toxify future slaves??"

Sorry, I forgot to answer your question.

It's because they know this world is screwed - finished! Even Einstien said, "When the honey bees disappear, we have four more years." The honey bees will be gone by next year. 2008 + 4 = 2012 myan calender.

There are at least 5 different species of aliens currently on this planet, and they don't all get along.

We have the Tall greys, the Short Greys, the Nordics, Lamurians, (under water) the tall whites, the reptilians, and the vulturites, and thats not all of em. Each group controlls a sector of this planet, through infiltration into governments, science, etc.

Very soon, once we realize that we won't be eating fruits and vegitables anymore, and the antartic shelf slides into the sea, along with the ice melt in the north poll, drowning 50% of the population, they'll make their move on the remaining humans. They love the sound of our screaming.

They are a-hovering around this planet as we speak.

Why do you think there have been thousands of UFO sightings since november of 2004?

It's not a simple thing to enslave an entire planet. This kind of thing takes a coordinated effort between human beings in power who are helping them, but will wind up as slave bait in the end, and then there are those silly alien wars that have been taking place in our skys for the last 3 years to see which race will win the prize.

Oh, and they're not concerned with toxic slaves. They are masters at genetic manipulation; all they need is a finger.

So there you have it.



[edit on 11-4-2007 by eyespy2]

[edit on 11-4-2007 by eyespy2]

Originally posted by eyespy2
Keep thinking they intend you no harm. You'll be one of the morons on top of the building, like in Independance Day, waiving a sign that says, "Welcome brother aliens"
and wind up donating your butt for some evil alien intentions. Yikes!

lol "welcome brother aliens" lol well if u wanna be a smartass,and a dick about it. thne i guess i will be too ... like telling u that there was no sign in that movie (independence day") saying "welcome brother aliens" LOL , maybe try watching it again.

Anyways, good and evil was made by Man. You , nor does anyone else here know for a fact that the concept of "good" and "evil" is universal.

-Mayan

Originally posted by eyespy2
There are at least 5 different species of aliens currently on this planet, and they don't all get along.

We have the Tall greys, the Short Greys, the Nordics, Lamurians, (under water) the tall whites, the reptilians, and the vulturites, and thats not all of em. Each group controlls a sector of this planet, through infiltration into governments, science, etc.

Very soon, once we realize that we won't be eating fruits and vegitables anymore, and the antartic shelf slides into the sea, along with the ice melt in the north poll, drowning 50% of the population, they'll make their move on the remaining humans. They love the sound of our screaming.

They are a-hovering around this planet as we speak.

Why do you think there have been thousands of UFO sightings since november of 2004?

It's not a simple thing to enslave an entire planet. This kind of thing takes a coordinated effort between human beings in power who are helping them, but will wind up as slave bait in the end, and then there are those silly alien wars that have been taking place in our skys for the last 3 years to see which race will win the prize.

Oh, and they're not concerned with toxic slaves. They are masters at genetic manipulation; all they need is a finger.

So there you have it.

[edit on 11-4-2007 by eyespy2]

[edit on 11-4-2007 by eyespy2]

This indeed sounds very possible given the amount of possibilities with such a huge universe, but could you please provide some proof, as cool as it sounds, it could just me all made up for all I know.

Originally posted by Mayan2012

Originally posted by eyespy2
Keep thinking they intend you no harm. You'll be one of the morons on top of the building, like in Independance Day, waiving a sign that says, "Welcome brother aliens"
and wind up donating your butt for some evil alien intentions. Yikes!

lol "welcome brother aliens" lol well if u wanna be a smartass,and a dick about it. thne i guess i will be too ... like telling u that there was no sign in that movie (independence day") saying "welcome brother aliens" LOL , maybe try watching it again.

Anyways, good and evil was made by Man. You , nor does anyone else here know for a fact that the concept of "good" and "evil" is universal.

-Mayan

Is that the best you can do in the "I'll be a dick too contest?" Lighten up man! I have to make a joke about it, because I can't believe how utterly nieve, you and some of the others posting here are.

BTW, I've seen it 5-6 times. I was basically talking about the welcoming commitee on top of the building, meaning that you would be up there next to the stripper. The sign, I created just for you.

And yes, I do know for a fact that evil is universal. In fact, the entire material universe is evil because... drum roll.... everything dies! Death is evil. And anything associated with death is evil. That also includes ignorance.

The space hubble telescope recently observed a star dying some 300 billion light years away. That's 10 trillion km X 300 billion. Whew! Even stars die.

Why is it that people... uh, you, who don't understand a thing, imagine that no one is capable of understanding? Or that it is impossible to understand, unless it can be explained... to you, or the world for that matter?

Here's a news flash for ya: There are those of us who come into this world knowing a lot of stuff that folks will never be able to understand, but that doesn't mean we're decieving ourselves into believing we know. We just know from experience. We know because it changes the way we behave. Prevents us from doing evil. Knowledge is a beautiful thing.

You see, it is possible to remember stuff from a long, long, long time ago, even though we're temporarily stuck here. With that said, I am an expert on evil. Perhaps the only expert on evil you will ever know in this life. Or want to know.

And I know quite a bit about Good as well. But there can only be one expert on Good.

Did you know that Good, doesn't need evil as an off-set? No ying and yang with evil and Good. That's one of the most popular misconceptions. Good can exist perfectly well without evil.

Everything you ever needed to know about why you're here, you learned within the very first moment you arrived. I'm speaking of you personally. You didn't forget, you just chose to block out the pain of knowing.

You know that Evil is an imposition. That's why it's evil. Because It attempts to impose It's will on all that is alive.

How this relates to your little thread is that from one end of this universe to the other, there is only birth and death. Some races live for a thousand years. Some for only a moment. But one thing is certain, at one point or another, they all die.

There is one perticular race, living on this planet as we speak that is so evil, so lustful for death and all the pain that goes with it, they have a ceremony that allows them to continuously incarnate their consciousness into human form, just so they can kill, and experience death and suffering over and over again.

For them, screams, agony, pleading for mercy gives them a veritable hard-on. Only thing keeping them at bey, is the Good. For now.

Did you just say that Dying was evil???


ROFL !!!!!!! im literally rolling on the floor with my laptop right now laughing So friggin hard !! lol


Yea dude Dying is evil....and i suppose living on this god forsaken planet is evil too right? Cuz i mean hell if dying is natural , just like how planets are formed and how things are born is natural....then i guess that must be evil too? right? its only logical that things like DEATH are natural phenomena,just as BIRTH is a natural phenomena Are EVIL !!!! hahaha.


and i didnt know Stars that die is Evil either ......i guess the whole universe is evil because stars are being formed all the time and stars die all the time.

yea, No, Dont think so buddy.


But nice try

-Mayan

[edit on 4/11/2007 by Mayan2012]

Originally posted by eyespy2
For them, screams, agony, pleading for mercy gives them a veritable hard-on. Only thing keeping them at bey, is the Good. For now.

I enjoyed this post, but how could we be so certain that alien emotions would be like ours, i'm just saying that it makes perfect sense for humans but maybe not so much for aliens, but then again it could very well act the same way, in terms of knowing what good and evil are.

Originally posted by Mayan2012
Did you just say that Dying was evil???

What I got from the post was that all intelligent organisms would recognize that dying is a bad thing, and associating that bad thing with some sort of concept of all that is bad: evil.

[edit on 11-4-2007 by aaronman]

death isnt bad. in fact it is actually a good thing. because i dont know about you but i dont wanna be in this crappy,fragile, aging body for eternity , do you?

i want to be set free eventually.

Death to me is the opposite of Bad,or Evil.

there is more chance of convincing me that Living on Earth is Evil,and "bad" lol

-Mayan

Originally posted by Mayan2012
death isnt bad. in fact it is actually a good thing. because i dont know about you but i dont wanna be in this crappy,fragile, aging body for eternity , do you?

i want to be set free eventually.

Death to me is the opposite of Bad,or Evil.

there is more chance of convincing me that Living on Earth is Evil,and "bad" lol

-Mayan

That is your opinion, and I respect it, but that is not the case for me, I would like to live forever if i could, in this "crappy, fragile, aging body for eternity". Just because you think that about life, does not mean that anyone else does think that too, never mind aliens whose psychology may be completly different than ours

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Living forever in my opinion is evil.

It's not meant to be and it never will be. its against the nature of the universe.

if stars can die then so should life. and anything else.


but noone can claim that death is evil. thats liek saying life is evil. u cant claim that.

-Mayan

Originally posted by aaronman

Originally posted by Mayan2012
Did you just say that Dying was evil???

What I got from the post was that all intelligent organisms would recognize that dying is a bad thing, and associating that bad thing with some sort of concept of all that is bad: evil.

[edit on 11-4-2007 by aaronman]

You're kidding right? Bad is not doing your homework, or pulling the girl next doors hair.

A fish struggles on the hook, because it doesn't want to die. Even the roach on your counter when the light goes on, senses the slightest movement on your part just so he/she can save it's life. So it doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to figure out that death is bad.

You can be philosophical about the need for things and people to die, until it's you who is dying.

So yes brother, a universe in which everything must die, is the very definition of Evil. Because the Death has been imposed upon beings who were meant to live forever!

Originally posted by eyespy2

Originally posted by aaronman

Originally posted by Mayan2012
Did you just say that Dying was evil???

What I got from the post was that all intelligent organisms would recognize that dying is a bad thing, and associating that bad thing with some sort of concept of all that is bad: evil.

[edit on 11-4-2007 by aaronman]

You're kidding right? Bad is not doing your homework, or pulling the girl next doors hair.

A fish struggles on the hook, because it doesn't want to die. Even the roach on your counter when the light goes on, senses the slightest movement on your part just so he/she can save it's life. So it doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to figure out that death is bad.

You can be philosophical about the need for things and people to die, until it's you who is dying.

So yes brother, a universe in which everything must die, is the very definition of Evil. Because the Death has been imposed upon beings who were meant to live forever!

We're saying the same things, but our choice of words are different, but what you are saying is what I think too.

i dont really care how you put it. Death is not Bad....its not Evil...its purely Natural.

how on earth can u guys think Death is a Bad thing ?

Death is universal. so is Life

Life and Death go hand in hand. They arent Bad,and they arent Good. its just Nature.

Wtf

*Edit* maybe im alone in saying all this but,i for one am not afraid of Dying. in fact if , and when the time comes ill feel relieved.

-Mayan

[edit on 4/11/2007 by Mayan2012]

Originally posted by Mayan2012
i dont really care how you put it. Death is not Bad....its not Evil...its purely Natural.

how on earth can u guys think Death is a Bad thing ?

Death is universal. so is Life

Life and Death go hand in hand. They arent Bad,and they arent Good. its just Nature.

Wtf

-Mayan

Reason I think its bad: I DON'T WANT TO DIE.

Just because something is natural and universal doesn't mean I want to experience it...

Possibly you are not afraid of death because you believe in some form of afterlife or something along the lines of that?

I do not believe in that, I just think there is nothing when you die, and something is better than nothing so I don't want to die.

The history of Alien contact goes back thousands of years. Some say millions of years.
People from other planets have visited us and continue to visit us. They observe us as we observe the tribes of tribes of Papua New Guniea.They are expeditions.They will have the equivalent of scientists , botanists , geologists & anthroplogists etc etc. They are interested in us. They are milenia ahead of us and have been visiting us for milenia.
If EBE people from other planets wanted our planet , they would have conquered and exterminated us when we were merely cave men. They do not need us for slaves. If they can travel through worm holes or dimensions to other planets or galaxies or even universes they would definately have the technology to dig metals or minerals out of the ground totally without the need of humans.
If we are food , again they would have conquered us when we were in caves and grow us in laboratory's gentically . They have our genes . They have been coming to Earth for millenia. Why would they abduct people? Mostly from America? Its much easier for them to abduct aborigines or Africans....there are billions of Chinese to abduct. Why would Aliens mutilate Cattle mostly in the USA? Why not take them from Africa ? They have the technology to grow cattle gentically .
The truth is much closer to home. The USA has 90 percent plus of the worlds UFO reports, 90 per cent of the abuductions and 90 percent of the cattle mutilations. All the reported abuductees except 7 (so far) are white caucasian. Sounds to me like classic Fear Ops . Big budgets big profits are made from fear. Aliens are a great way to install fear and increase star wars defense bugets, secret bases & surveilence. Most cattle mutilations are in the areas associated with secret miltary bases.
Anyone that thinks an aliens really needs a cows anus is demented.
Would they travel through dimensions accross space for a cows anus? If they wanted them they would gentically grow them. The Alien invasion is absurd.
I am sure there are some that wish to exploit our resources as we exploit
others perhaps the equivalent of smugglers or profiteers. Crystals like quartz and some minerals might be valued. But take note. There have been many crashed Alien vehicles . Why have they crashed? They have been shot down. There are and have been battles & skirmishes. Look at the pictures from the history books.Those that raid us are dealt with and it is not us defending the planet. Obviously those that defend us are superior . We have not been conquered or colonised. We have been protected.
Not all aliens are greys or reptiles or preying mantis types (if they exist )most look very much like us, white , black , brown , blue , olive, etc perhaps they have always been here.
Remember all reported Aliens are bipedal humanoids. This begs the question why? The statistical odds of aliens looking similar to us is virtually impossible. So why do they look similar to us? Simple .We were created as they were in the image of the creator & they are our our guardians.

Check this link:
www.xfacts.com...