Forest on Mars !?!?

Originally posted by blue bird
This is treating public like they are kids.

No like LEMMINGS LOL

Even that Space Imaging image you posted is low resolution... for public free consumption...

If you spend a little money you can get the real resolution... The following image is the entrance to Shangri-La, the Tsangpo River...




The original set was 18 pictures for the expedition, and cost $20,000.00

But today only you can have a copy for your very own...

Take a "flight" from the bottom up the cliff... awesome experience when you realize this was taken from 280 miles above Earth... I tried to get them to take a snap of the moon, seems company policy will not do moon imaging...

OH And be patient when loading it takes four scans to finish the image

Get the BIG Picture

Let me know what you think and check your u2u I got a surprise there...

[edit on 12-4-2007 by zorgon]

Originally posted by damajikninja
They dont need OXYGEN... why would they? Because plants on Earth dont need oxygen either. Nope, they use CO2 here. And besides, Mars is a completely different friggin planet. Why should we expect life to behave the same way over there?

Dont let your mind limit you.

[edit on 8-4-2007 by damajikninja]

I was wondering the same thing. Trees make oxygen from carbonmonoxide. Isn't Mars filled with that? If that white part truly is snow, there will be more than plenty of water for this #ing forest to drink .... which leaves only one thing: photosyntheses.
All life needs the sun

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by blue bird
This is treating public like they are kids.

No like LEMMINGS LOL

Even that Space Imaging image you posted is low resolution... for public free consumption...

It is unbelievable...you see down there every little stone ...and cliff is like it is in front of your nose.

Same as this image from 400 MILES - you can see every detail:




That is all I am telling all the way - send camera with 'this'  set of eyes...and do not give us: to much data for transmission.

It is also strikingly good pictures from Russian mission Venera ...from late '75 !?!?:





PS,
*thx. for everything ..especially for astonishing U2U

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[edit on 18-4-2007 by blue bird]

Originally posted by Jonathanlock
I was wondering the same thing. Trees make oxygen from carbonmonoxide. Isn't Mars filled with that? If that white part truly is snow, there will be more than plenty of water for this #ing forest to drink .... which leaves only one thing: photosyntheses.
All life needs the sun

It seems - there is WATER or at least NASA found evidence of Mars gushers and craters that have FRESH deposits that they belive "were formed by water flowing out recently."

NARRATOR: How recently?

MALIN: Within the last five years.

the rest of the transcript //NASA// "Recent Water gushes and Craters on Mars"

or play now

So - what are forest//tree stuff on images?

Originally posted by blue bird
So - what are forest//tree stuff on images?

Well Arthur C Clarke says 95% chance they are trees... so I will go with that for now until Matt gets the spaceship finished

It seems pretty clear that there is water there. It is obvious there was a lot of water at one time, so it had to go somewhere and there isn't enough water ice at the poles to account for all of it...

Did it evaporate into space? Maybe

I have some old Tibetan writings that tell of a war that ripped the atmosphere away, but I am still working on that

Maybe the Anunnaki opened a Stargate under the Martian ocean and sent all the water to Earth causing the Great Flood... That would solve two problems. Where the Martian water went, and where all the water from the flood came from... sounds crazy? Maybe but there is evidence for that

Originally posted by zorgon


. Where the Martian water went, and where all the water from the flood came from... sounds crazy? Maybe but there is evidence for that

Maybe it went beneath the surface....like on Earth.

Huge Underground "Ocean" Found Beneath Asia

From the images published today (2007/04/18) from HiRISE:

Closer.

Finally, zoom at 100%. Image resolution is 52.9 cm/pixel.

You can get the full 515.4 MB JPEG 2000 image from here.

PS: maybe it's some more of that blue dust that can be seen in some places?

LAKE????

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Joseph Skipper updated site on mars "vegetation".....see for yourself:

NASA:
www.msss.com...


Same images from Skipper:

www.marsanomalyresearch.com...

source Skipper

Originally posted by blue bird
LAKE????

No.

Very fine dust. If you look to the right you will see that there is some of that dust over a sloping area.

And that photo is from one of the Rovers, even if it was a lake it would be only some centimetres wide.

Originally posted by blue bird
LAKE????

Pictures not working

But I already had the trees and lakes

Thx. zorgon!



**Mars Global Surveyor satellite orbiting Mars

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more lakes!?!?



The crater is 35 kilometres wide and has a maximum depth of approximately 2 kilometres beneath the crater rim. The circular patch of bright material located at the centre of the crater is residual WATER ICE!!!

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NASA's Mars rover Opportunity found evidence for a lake or sea on Mars, and new research suggests the body of water was deep, large and long-lasting.

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Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by blue bird
LAKE????

No.

Very fine dust. If you look to the right you will see that there is some of that dust over a sloping area.

And that photo is from one of the Rovers, even if it was a lake it would be only some centimetres wide.

Fram crater - this can be 'fine dust' - but look like water was there a moment ago!
** again - NASA Recent Water Gushes and Craters on Mars -water recently as 5 years...here


mars-news.de... **750 kB panorama


lake !?

Originally posted by blue bird
Fram crater - this can be 'fine dust' - but look like water was there a moment ago!

Most people forget (or don't even know) that very feny dust behaves almost like a fluid, that is why Diesel engines can work with coal dust.

And if you look at that picture you posted you will see that, unlike water, that fine dust is higher on one side of the crater than on the other, probably because of the wind.

Edit: on the second picture you posted, you can see that the "lake" as something that looks like a shadow of itself to the upper left, again probably just a different coloured dust blown by the wind from the "lake" over the ground beside it.

[edit on 19/4/2007 by ArMaP]

Originally posted by ArMaP

probably because of the wind....

again probably just a different coloured dust blown by the wind from the "lake" over the ground beside it.

So your not sure its dust, just probably its wind blown dust...

And the Martian winds have the ability to sort sands into different colors and pile it just so that it looks like a lake...

Originally posted by ArMaP
...probably because of the wind...

...again probably just a different coloured dust blown by the wind from the "lake" over the ground beside it.

Hmmm so you don't know... its PROBABLY just dust... and the Winds of Mars have the ability to sort sand and dust into various colors and place them so that they look like lakes...

Interesting theory... kinda wacky though...

Well okay.. lets forget about all the images but one for a minute...

This one



Now seeing as the ESA has identified this as water ice...

And that "the warmest soil occasionally reaches +81° F (27° C) as estimated from Viking Orbiter Infrared Thermal Mapper. "(NASA) it then becomes a mute point to attempt to prove that there are lakes on Mars...

The image I posted granted is a Co2 "lake", but the one above is without question a lake.. whether frozen or not

Seeing as you did not comment on that one being dust, I logically assume that you know full well that it is indeed a lake with frozen di-hydrogen oxide that at least for short periods will warm enough to thaw.

:shk:

PS Trivia - Water is Hydrogen "rust"

[edit on 19-4-2007 by zorgon]

Originally posted by blue bird

You forgot to add the text from Themis regarding the above lake...

THEY are not calling it dust... fine or otherwise...

We chose this area because of the presence of craters in the vicinity, which we hope will help with our thesis about the presence of craters that contain lobates as use for evidence that there might once have been water in this area.

This image is causing us considerable difficulty due to the presence of a structure that resembles a lake located in the center of the crater.

NOTE: The above caption was written by the MSIP team that targeted this image. There has been no editing of content by ASU.

SOURCE

[edit on 19-4-2007 by zorgon]

[edit on 19-4-2007 by zorgon]

Originally posted by zorgon

PS Trivia - Water is Hydrogen "rust"

[edit on 19-4-2007 by zorgon]

.......iron metal ------>reduce water........>that reaction forms H2....Is this RED planet or what?




[edit on 19-4-2007 by blue bird]

Originally posted by zorgon

You forgot to add the text from Themis regarding the above lake...

THEY are not calling it dust... fine or otherwise

I was referring 'dust like ' image only for (not the Themis one) Fram Crater (first Crater that Opportunity looked in detail...after Eagle Crater) which is on Meridiani Planum...it is little shallow 'bowl'......and it looks pretty 'muddy' and recently 'wet'.



[edit on 19-4-2007 by blue bird]

Originally posted by blue bird

.......iron metal ------>reduce water........>that reaction forms H2....Is this RED planet or what?

The dust comment was for ArMap

Iron+Water FE+H20 ==> H2 + FE0 but Iron Oxide is actually Fe3O2 and when created by water you will get FeO(OH) but in any event its a whole lot of red rust lying around

So maybe all that water just rusted everything out on Mars...

But that means we can still extract that water and oxygen from the rock and replenish the oceans and put the O2 back into the atmosphere..

No? well it sounded like a good idea to me... (thats what NASA plans to do with Moon rock )