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reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 06:29 PM by greshnik
Originally posted by jra
Originally posted by swimmer
No "Moon Landing" ever happened. It is not even worth of discussing. Please use elementary logic, and be honest to yourself. It is really not hard to see that it was faked.


This is about the third you've said that in the past two weeks or so. Saying that it's not worth discussing or that you have no interest in discussing it. Why are you posting just to say you have no interesting in discussing the subject? And then you make a claim of how simple it is to see that it's faked, implying that some one would have to be stupid not to see it. But you hide behind your statement of "not worth discussing" I find that incredibly odd. I normally wouldn't bother addressing this, but like I said, this is the third time you've said something like this.

Why not add something useful to the discussion if you're going to make post or just don't post at all.


You make topics long and hardly readable. You have been writing thousands of lines...for years now, on all topics about fake "Moon landing". You always defend the "official story", in every detail. I think that there is enough evidence for an average educated reader to make up their mind. Just watch the videos, compare both sides' arguments and make up your mind. I don't have time nor do I enjoy exchanging endles replies with jra and other "Flat Earth Soicety" members. I just don't.
I KNOW that they have not landed on the Moon, and it is a SIMPLE fact. Verifiable easily. I don't need any discussion about it, other than HOW they faked it, who was on it, etc.



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reply posted on 15-2-2009 @ 01:52 AM by jra
reply to post by Donny 4 million


Here's one. www.hq.nasa.gov...

The Earth was generally high up in the Lunar sky, so in order to get it in the shot, the astronaut with the camera had to be lower than the astronaut he's photographing. And the spacesuits not being that flexable makes it a bit awkward to accomplish.


reply posted on 15-2-2009 @ 05:23 PM by jra
reply to post by Donny 4 million


www.hq.nasa.gov...

Go to www.apolloarchive.com... or www.hq.nasa.gov... which have thousands of photos from the Apollo missions. It doesn't take long to find what you're looking for.


reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 10:40 AM by Syandos
reply to post by jra


See this youtube vid. The tester plays football in one. They were pretty flexible.


Odd photo. If you gamma correct it the Earth looks photoshopped in. The background is very odd looking.



Not saying it's proof of a hoaxed landing. Just odd.


reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 06:46 PM by jra
Originally posted by Donny 4 million
I am asumming the astronaut photo with the flag and moon is in the archive?


Yep it's in there. You'll find two photos like that from Apollo 17.

Originally posted by Syandos
See this youtube vid. The tester plays football in one. They were pretty flexible.


Yes, you can still move around and do relitively normal things in them, but it is more difficult. Especially on the Moon and having to deal with the lower gravity as well.

Here's one example of an astronaut dropping something and bends over to pick it up, only to fall over himself. www.youtube.com... There are more videos like that on the side.

It might have more to do with the weight of the PLSS on there back, but either way. It's hard to bend down without falling over and almost just as hard to get back up.

Odd photo. If you gamma correct it the Earth looks photoshopped in. The background is very odd looking.


It does not look photoshopped in. When you crank the gamma to extremes like that, funny things are going happen. What you're seeing is the .jpg compression.


reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 08:12 PM by Syandos
reply to post by jra


Yeah, good points.

First the tester wasn't wearing the back pack/refrig unit
Second, he was in Earth Grav
Third I presume the back pack made them a bit top heavy.

Also if you look at the part about the construction of the gloves it readily debunks the guy who had the rubber glove in the vacuum housing. They had a special material and internal netting designed to improve the flex and grip, but yes, the gloves and the arms tended to 'spring' back.

Also, correct cranking gamma can make it look funny, and I'm not saying it -was- photoshopped. In fact if it's clearly authentic, it can debunk claims of apparent shopping.

Good post!



reply posted on 1-3-2009 @ 06:04 PM by jra
reply to post by Donny 4 million


Here's the transcripts of the audio transmissions with commentary in the square brackets
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From Apollo Lunar Surface Journal


118:25:47 Cernan: I want to get the Earth.

118:25:49 Schmitt: Okay. Let me get over here.

118:25:51 Cernan: Get around on that side.

[Jack had moved west of the pole, and now moves back. He overshoots his mark and sprays dust as he stops.]

118:25:54 Schmitt: I don't think it's going...You're a little close, maybe, to have them both in focus. That might do it.

[Gene starts to bend his knees and, in an effort to get Earth in the picture along with Jack and the flag, almost gets down on his knees. His first effort, AS17-134- 20383 gets the flag but very little of Jack and the Earth, his second photo, AS17-134-20384, is much more successful. After he gets up, Gene gives Jack the camera and they trade places.]

[Using planetarium software, we see that, had cloud cover over the southwestern Pacific been lighter, the Antarctica would have been visible at the left and Australia would have been coming into view over the top.]

118:26:08 Cernan: Try that one time, then we'll give up and get to work. (Long Pause)

[Jack holds the camera in his hand and gets it as low to the ground as he can without kneeling.]

118:26:26 Cernan: Point it up a little...Yeah. (Pause)

[This is AS17-134- 20385.]

118:26:32 Schmitt: Let me try it again.

118:26:33 Cernan: Okay.

[This is AS17-134-20386. This photo shows the "red apple" actuator for the purge valve reasonably well.]

118:26:35 Schmitt: I don't know, Geno.

118:26:36 Cernan: Okay.

118:26:38 Schmitt: Let me get over here closer to you. (Pause)

[Once again, Jack almost goes to his knees.]

118:26:43 Schmitt: Okay. That might have got it.


And here's the video clip Unfortunately it's in a real media format. You can download the "real alternative" player if you can't get it to work. You can see the astronauts almost on there knee's trying to get the shot. It didn't look that easy.

As for the Earth looking small. How big should it look exactly?


reply posted on 4-3-2009 @ 10:28 PM by Donny 4 million
Anyone who doubts that a man ever squeezed a footprint into lunar dust ON the MOON should check out these sites
Japanese Moon Mission Returns Detailed Maps of the Lunar Sur...
Apr 13, 2008 ... The Japanese SELENE lunar orbiter has returned some of the most detailed maps of the Moon to date. The new collection of high-definition ...www.universetoday.com
NASA'S LRO
ESMART

Bear in mind that NASA claims that they threaded the 250,000 mile away remote needle, 40 years ago. Some seven times! With no loss of life in OUTER space.

Are you willing to accept that they could send humans so far into Outer space and gently settle them on the moons surface and flawlessly retrieved them with 60's and early 70's technology?
Since then, they have allowed the death of some fourteen amazing human beings. Also a number of lab animals, I think were lost.
All this, no higher in space than the distance from Washington DC to Philadelphia PA or way less a distance.
This is not counting Gus Grissom and his crew. They were lost during the Apollo mission but at the surface of the earth
The Apollo missions were supposedly accomplished during the height of the Viet Nam War with 40 year old technology. Budget is a sad excuse for anything NASA argues.
Someone is going to have to admit that NASA has been totally disgraceful since !973 or they have accomplished just the status quo of space and there are no human lunar footprints.





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