John Titor fraud or not?, page 2

From John Titor:

November 21, 2000 10:41
For a change, I have a question for all of you. I want you to think very hard. What major disaster was expected and prepared for in the last year and a half that never happened?
(It is generally agreed that John is referring to the Y2K bug.)
We live in a world recovering from years of war, poison, destruction and hate. All of it, courtesy of the thinking and actions of people that live right now in the same world you do, worrying about which stocks to buy or whether or not a stranger is lying to them on the Internet.
While you sit by and watch your Constitution being torn away from you, you willfully eat poisoned food, buy manufactured products no one needs and turn an uncaring eye away from millions of people suffering and dying all around you. Is this the "Universal Law" you subscribe to?
Perhaps I should let you all in on a little secret. No one likes you in the future. This time period is looked at as being full of lazy, self-centered, civically ignorant sheep. Perhaps you should be less concerned about me and more concerned about that.

November 25, 2000 14:03
Can you tell us the foods that are unsafe now? Is there anything we can do to prepare for the war you are describing?

Titor: I tried to consolidate your questions into a basic list. I hope this helps.

1. Do not eat or use products from any animal that is fed and eats parts of its own dead.

2. Do not kiss or have intimate relations with anyone you do not know.

3. Learn basic sanitation and water purification.

4. Be comfortable around firearms. Learn to shoot and clean a gun.

5. Get a good first aid kit and learn to use it.

6. Find 5 people within 100 miles that you trust with your life and stay in contact with them.

7. Get a copy of the US Constitution and read it.

8. Eat less.

9. Get a bicycle and two sets of spare tires. Ride it 10 miles a week.

10. Consider what you would bring with you if you had to leave your home in 10 min. and never return.
www.johntitor.com...

Maybe, instead of trying to disprove Titor's claim, that he is a time-traveler, we should focus on the advice he gave. He has gotten everything right so far, that I have seen. Now there's the mad-cow claim and the statement about Iraq that he made:
November 25, 2000 14:03
I have tried to tell people about CJD disease and it seems to be "catching on" in Europe.

January 31, 2001 02:14 AM
"The "Mad Cow" story here is yet to begin but don't worry, the fruited gelatin deserts are safe."
"I'm glad to see it's so easy to dismiss the Middle East. Yes, I suppose it is a no brainer but pretty soon it will be a 'no-armer' and a 'no-legger'."

Whether he is a very intelligent man that made predictions by analyzing current events, or a time-traveler trying to give us a glimpse of our future, is irrelevant. What is relevant, is the fact that his predictions have been coming true. Doesn't anybody see the importance of his message? Who cares if he came from 2036 or not? The fact remains that if things continue the way they are, his "future" will very likely be ours. I think that if nothing else, Titor has outlined some major failings on our part that need to be addressed, before it's too late.

While I don't really disagree with his question, "Have you considered that your society might be better off if half of you were dead?" (referring to "a world war in 2015 that killed nearly three billion people") I would very much like to regain my faith in, and respect for, the human race. People used to believe that they could affect change, even if the odds were against them, through determination. What happened?

Here is a good link that in my mind proves John Titor was a hoax let me know what you think.

www.livejournal.com...

Originally posted by KillerD
Here is a good link that in my mind proves John Titor was a hoax let me know what you think.

www.livejournal.com...

well, this guy has only been looking at it for a few day's first of all and he's already concluded that Titor is a hoax due to titors economical statements.

I came in the same way, I remembered Titor saying something about E=MC^2 being part of the equation for time travel. In Einsteins theory, it is nothing like Titors theory at all. In fact the 2 are complete opposites. Of course, this supposedly is not proof to some people. Nor is being wrong with Economics. So I set out to actually get the proof, and I did contact a few people who were advanced in the physics field, and they told me his theory is all wrong. STILL not good enough. Again, I concluded he was a hoax by using common sense (which is actually what the guy in your link did) and again it was not good enough. In my conclusion, if titor is a hoax... then it doesn't matter what proof you have someone will always say it's not good enough because they WANT to believe that Titor is real (even though they'll say they don't believe in him so they don't look stupid). All the evidence is there that he's a hoax...

However, over the past week I have actually been changing my opinion. I don't know if he's real or not but I do know that he was good at telling the future (probably from knowing his current events). If this guy can actually prove he's a hoax, maybe he can explain why most of titors predictions are accurate.

In my opinion, your link is a good one. (i love that comment from that person "Why would someone do something like this!?" as if Titor was chopping off head's or something... There's multiple reasons, I can think of 4 off the top of my head) but it won't help to prove anything. But for those of us who still have atleast a drip of common sense left, that link's good.

[Edited on 30-12-2003 by DerekpacIsAlive]

John Titor fraud or not?

Let me first say that before I starting visiting, let me restate that as living on this site I knew little of John Titor. In the past few days I have been reading more about him and his predictions. My question for you guys is this; Do you believe that his claim that America will soon be engaged in civil war with itself; a civil war that we'll see the beginnings of during 2004 and 2005, escalating until it is indisputable by 2008 and will consume everyone in the US by 2012.

abovetopsecret.com...

forgot the link it came from

[Edited on 30-12-2003 by SE7EN]

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