Russian intelligence sees U.S. military buildup on Iran border

Before the Bush Regime can jump the gun Russian intelligence has caught them with their pants down. Now Iran too will know, but could they ever doubt they are in the sights?

MOSCOW, March 27 (RIA Novosti) - Russian military intelligence services are reporting a flurry of activity by U.S. Armed Forces near Iran's borders, a high-ranking security source said Tuesday.

"The latest military intelligence data point to heightened U.S. military preparations for both an air and ground operation against Iran," the official said, adding that the Pentagon has probably not yet made a final decision as to when an attack will be launched.

He said the Pentagon is looking for a way to deliver a strike against Iran "that would enable the Americans to bring the country to its knees at minimal cost."

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But what does it matter when we can make it rain longer than they can swim?

Jesus Christ.. are we in silence before the storm.. America has the ability to smash through Iranian defenses within a minimum of one weeks time.. we have the ability to decimate the entire nation in 48 hours crippiling retaliation time..

Are we building up for this mission? .. How will the public take Bush going to war with Iran?

Doesn't an all-out attack require at least an attempt at an excuse for a preemptive strike. Congress won't approve either way. Correct me if I am wrong, but for a U.S. President to take such quick and drastic measures without Congress approval, there needs to be a severe and immediate threat, and a very short time window.

What's the threat? Reportedly the nuclear program in Iran had ground to a halt after Russian withdrawal. The case about the British soldiers held by Iran is still unresolved- not clear yet who violated what. And even then- it's Britain's issue to resolve. If U.S. attacks, it couldn't even be considered a pre-emptive strike right now.


But if you look at recent events, something is happening. Less than 2 weeks ago Russia withdraws its nuclear engineers from Iran. Then Iran detains British soldiers. Now Russia expressedly warns U.S. against any offensive action. Russia obviously knows what is going on, if anything. So if they were sure U.S. would attack, wouldn't they also withdraw their diplomats from Iran?

There is nothing the anyone can do about the President of the United States and the acting Commander and Chief of the armed forces so its in his power.

War in Iran will be fought with the main attack coming from British and Israeli Soldiers they will be back with minimal American ground forces that will most likely stage there defenses on the borders of Iraq and Afganistan to repel any attacks coming into either one of those countries and we will also back the British/Israeli assault with missiles and bombs from our ships and planes.

Iran is doomed... Natanz and the other nuclear sites will be hit along with Revoluntary Guards Headquaters and Training Facilites,

You all have far to much confidence in the US military.
Iran will not be crippled and smashed in 48hrs.
Im pretty sure a large quantity of Israeli buildings will be though.
Along with the Greenzone.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
Jesus Christ.. are we in silence before the storm.. America has the ability to smash through Iranian defenses within a minimum of one weeks time.. we have the ability to decimate the entire nation in 48 hours crippiling retaliation time..

Are we building up for this mission? .. How will the public take Bush going to war with Iran?

This is starting to get very scary....If this happens I think Bush will be impeached. He was told point blank by congress do not go into Iran. He would be brought up on charges probably and he would be furthering his goal of distroying what this country stands for.

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U.S. and its allies probably would cripple Iran with air/missile strikes, and maybe a few select precision attacks on the ground. Obviously invasion/occupation is completely out of the question. Iran might launch some random missiles, and that's it.

But what then? The government will still be in place. They will be a major enemy for U.S. for decades to come. Not only will they spend most of their resources to mess things up for U.S. in Iraq, they will fund extremist groups around the world.

The danger for U.S. is not in a military defeat (as long as some genius doesn't decide to actually invade Iran). It would be the other consequences. World wide criticism, and possibly backing if Iran. Impeachment for Bush. New terror factions to worry about. More unstable Iraq.

In theory Iran is safe for years to come. In practice you never really know what the Commander in Chief might be thinking.

I look for limited surgical air strikes to eliminate Iran's nuclear program and little else. The Soviets will not have a problem with it because Iran is a bigger and closer danger to them than to us. Israeli involvement? Maybe. That's the way it was accomplished LAST time. Brits? again, maybe. Evidently the wackos that lead Iran need a reminder from time to time that the world will not tolerate their unstable ranting and raving nuclear insanity.

Use your heads,
You really think Iran are doing this, understanding the logic that they will be destroyed in a matter of hours?
Isnt it becoming obvious to even the most patriotic few, that Iran MUST have something up their sleeve, or someone willing to hide their support until its needed, then bring themselves into the mix?

They watched as Iraq was destroyed, and they learnt how it was destroyed.

You clearly think little of them. As if they are going to do all this, watch you prepare to do what you did to Iraq, and not prepare and ready themselves to STOP it.

These people invented Algebra.
Yet, you think they are stupid enough to simply allow themselves to be destroyed in a matter of hours?

Your under-estimating, the same way you under-estimated Iraqi's.

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Or here is one. The troops on the border were actually allied forces doing a patrol trying to keep people from coming into the country.

But if there were some plan to invade Iran they would not let it be known this early. These sort of things take a while to plan you got to figure out where to strike when to strike and with what units. You will need spys in country you need to map the terrain. Also a favored U.S. tactic is to make countries think were coming from one way and then come from the other like we did in Iraq.

I just do not see the US invading Iran on the ground; punitive air strikes, however, are a very real possibility. If this is the case, the US must seal the borders along Afghanistan and Iraq to prevent retaliation on either of those countries so troop buildups should be expected ahead of any type of attack on Iran. I think the capture of the British soldiers may have just sped these plans up. If this is not quickly resolved, I would look for UK/US special forces to execute a rescue attempt (much as was unsuccessfully attempted back during the last major hostage crisis) under the cover of the chaos that will be the bombing of Iran's nuclear and military infrastructure. I think Bush wanted to clean Iran out before he left office, but this situation may force him to play it sooner to repay the British for their help in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Iran is no joke.
They're not gonna just let us roll on over there and casually drop bombs on them. The Iranians are no idiots and i'm sure they have a plan in place ready to be implemented as soon as we hint at an attack on them...i'll bet a dollar it involves our soldiers next door in Iraq too.

Do not kid yourselves about Iran.

I can hardly wait to see Iran engage the U.S. Air Force with their "air force".
What a joke!

Originally posted by TheAvenger
I can hardly wait to see Iran engage the U.S. Air Force with their "air force".
What a joke!

Your really that confident that Iran, the creators of Algebra.. are just waiting for us to obliterate them?

America is a strong military yes, its not Iraq your correct.
But they arent idiots.

There not sitting there saying

'' Thankgod we took these 15 soliders, Id hate to be destroyed with nothing to show for my efforts ''

Iran do have something up their sleave, its very idiotic to believe otherwise.

Thankfully, im sure the airforce/navy arent using your logic.



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Algebra is a joke; give me differential equations. Give me F-18s and cruise missles.

I don't suppose Iran is just waiting for us to bomb them, but there is very little they can do to stop it. I have no fear of the U.S. military lacking the ability to attack anyone, anywhere. You need to understand that, my friend.

I see no point in continuing this ridiculous debate, either.

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Iran is acting tough because that's the only option is has left- scare others into thinking they actually have a plan. If U.S. had plans to invade it at the onstart of the War On Terror, no level of cooperation from Iran, or from anyone would have prevented it from happening. If Iran began to yield to U.S. demands, U.S. would feel confident that Iran is afraid, and has no means to defend itself, and it would only accelerate the planned attack.

Iran is doing what Soviet Union was doing in the climax of the Cold War. Make the other guy think that you have secret weapons and capabilities, as well as the economy necessary to support ongoing war for years- when in effect you have neither. This way you can hold off the conflict as long as possible.

Originally posted by TheAvenger
Algebra is a joke; give me differential equations. Give me f-18s and cruise missles.

I don't suppose Iran is just waiting for us to bomb them, but there is very little they can do to stop it. I have no fear of the U.S. military lacking the ability to attack anyone, anywhere. You need to understand that, my friend.

Algebra's a joke to those who dont know it!
And your f-18's and cruise missiles wont do much good, when the ac's & destroyers are at the bottom of the gulf.
In saying that, You honestly believe, that Iran after all this threatening posturing coming from the whitehouse, have been sitting there for the past 3.5years.... doing nothing?.. preparing nothing?...

If they honestly felt that vulnerable to your forces after all this time, why would they make their last defiant act the detention of 15 navy personnel?
Why not just launch an all out attack on israel.

According to you, either action will result in a catastrophic attack on Iran.

If they had nothing under their sleaves against this, why wouldnt they do the most monumental act before this supposidly well known end?

There is no NEED for a buildup along the border. We can launch B-1s, B-52s and B-2s from the US mainland, fly them to Iran, and land them at bases somewhere in the world to swap crews and fly them back to the US. B-2s and ship launched cruise missiles will probably be the first in to take out air defenses and make a corridor for the B-1s and B-52s to follow. Even if we were going to use mostly tactical bombers, the LAST place we would be building up forces is along the border with Iran. We'd be using bases farther back, and in flight refuel them on the way in and on the way out. You NEVER put your air bases that close to your enemy. If you see a build up in Turkey, or Saudi Arabia, or bases farther back that isn't consistant with our need of them in Iraq, THAT'S when you start to think that there's going to be an attack soon.

Zaphod,

Why wouldnt these forces being built up be specifically defensive, to stop an onslaught of iranian tanks troops towards the US forces in Iraq?

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Because we could place them farther back still and have plenty of warning before Iranian tanks rolled into Iraq. You don't just suddenly move large units of tanks and armor hundreds of miles in an hour unless they're prepped and ready to roll. Unless there are some very large armor units, like battalion and brigade size sitting right across the border, we could have units sitting back from the border where they wouldn't give any warning of anything coming, and when the attack hit, THEN move them forward to defensive positions. Keep air units like AH-64s and A-10s on alert at bases behind the border for rapid response, and have your tank units ready to roll towards the border, but don't actually move them up until your first wave goes in, or a few hours before your first wave goes in. Putting units on the border already is like putting up a giant neon sign saying "Hey! We're going to launch an attack soon and we're getting ready now!"

[edit on 3/27/2007 by Zaphod58]