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New Canadian PM to decriminalize marijuana

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posted on Dec, 19 2003 @ 03:39 PM
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Book those vacations now!

I'm glad he didn't bow to US pressure. Put your kids in prison for smoking pot but don't try to convince us to.

Marijuana is far less dangerous and insidious than alcohol, 10 times over.



story.news.yahoo.com.../nm/20031218/wl_canada_nm/canada_marijuana_col

"Martin Pressing Ahead With Pot Decriminalization
Thu Dec 18, 6:17 PM ET

By David Ljunggren

OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canada's new prime minister, brushing aside possible protests from an unhappy United States, said on Thursday he would press ahead with plans to decriminalize the possession of small amounts of marijuana.

Paul Martin (news - Y! TV), who has made improving relations with Washington one of his main priorities, said he did not think that young people caught with small amounts of pot should have a criminal record.

Earlier this year Ottawa unveiled a draft law that proposed slapping fines on those possessing small amounts of the drug. Officials estimate 100,000 of the country's 31 million people use pot daily and say 20,000 are convicted each year for using marijuana.

The draft legislation -- strongly opposed by the White House -- died when Parliament was shut down in November ahead of the handover from former Prime Minister Jean Chretien to Martin.

Asked whether the government would reintroduce the law into Parliament, Martin told reporters: "Yes, we're going to." Parliament is due to reopen in early February.

Some U.S. officials say a relaxed Canadian marijuana law could force a clampdown at the border, jeopardizing the Canada-U.S. trade relationship -- the world's largest.

"We are an independent nation. We will make decisions based on our values and our interests. We're not going to make these kinds of decisions based on what somebody else thinks," Martin later told CPAC television in a separate interview when asked about the marijuana law. BRAVO!!!!!!!!!

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Washington says Canadian laws are already too soft on traffickers and insists marijuana shipments to the United States -- worth billions a year -- are booming.

But Ottawa says Washington's own data shows that of all the illegal pot seized by U.S. agents, only 1.5 percent came from Canada. It also points out that at least 10 U.S. states already have similar laws on pot possession.



posted on Dec, 19 2003 @ 05:08 PM
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The drug laws in the USA are ONLY another excuse to take away our rights, now that they have milked it for all its worth, and they got the laws they wanted on the books it would not supprise me to see at least pot leagleized here too



posted on Dec, 19 2003 @ 05:11 PM
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Canada a good common sense nation.



posted on Dec, 19 2003 @ 05:16 PM
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*with a Homer Simpson voices*: WOO-HOO!!!



posted on Dec, 19 2003 @ 05:37 PM
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For every action there is a reaction.....

Pot growers face 14 years in jail under the proposed legislation. That is equivalent to second-degree murder in Canada. It would double the population of Canadian prisons within two years.
Sorry guys....don't pack those bags yet



posted on Dec, 22 2003 @ 11:06 AM
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There is simply no excuse for the US continued idiotic treatment of cannabis users. The rest of the civilized world laughs at us for acting like some morons out of the Reefer Madness era of government lies and blatant racism and ignorance. Cannabis is a useful medicine and a valuable relaxant for various conditions and is s safe intoxicant for recreational purposes. No one wants kids to get it..its an adult choice..but PROHIBITION causes the availability to rest with criminals and dealers who might very well sell other..dangerous drugs like heroin,meth,etc. For the DEA and the Govt to classify cannabis with the hardest drugs is a sham and fools no one. The Bush administration is guilty of the shame of denial of truth and for allowing the Nazified DEA goons to run rampant over the rights of Americans in order to perpetuate the same old lie they have been spinning for decades without evidence or proof of any type. It is a sickening commentary on the US that we stand by and watch almost a million citizens get arested every year for cannabis and allow the forces of evil (DEA) to murder,harrass,intimidate and deny the rights of sick patients and providers as well. Handcuffing a paraplegic to a wheelchair and tearing his plants out of the ground..even when the State has approved of the conduct.is an illegal and unconstitutional attack on the rights guaranteed to every citizen. Cannabis should be regulated and avilable to adults and there is NO evidence that can counter that assessment intelligently. ALL the facts and evidence points clearly to the decriminalization of cannabis and to get the stormtroopers and thugs out of sick peoples gardens and out looking for terrorists and real criminals. As long as Bush supports this outrage I will work against him and his party from returning for another four years of constitution shredding and rigthts denial. When will the people wake up? Another 4 years of Ashcroft and the Bill of Rights will make good toilet paper and thats about it..the right wing religious zealots are dangerous and assume we will blindly trust them to lead us...but they are wrong and we will not be blindly led into the ditch that Bush and Co. have prepared for all that do not worship at the feet of the Federal Govt.



posted on Dec, 23 2003 @ 05:15 PM
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""We are an independent nation. We will make decisions based on our values and our interests. We're not going to make these kinds of decisions based on what somebody else thinks," Martin later told CPAC television in a separate interview when asked about the marijuana law. BRAVO!!!!!!!!!"

Really?


"Canadian court rules pot still illegal"
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www.suntimes.com...

Excerpt:
"December 23, 2003

BY TARA BRAUTIGAM ASSOCIATED PRESS Advertisement

TORONTO-- Canada's top court ruled Tuesday to keep marijuana possession illegal, dealing a blow to activists who had argued the drug causes no serious harm.

In a 6-3 decision spanning 400 pages, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that possession, even in small amounts, would remain a criminal offense. In a separate, unanimous decision, it maintained trafficking was illegal.

The judgment prompted praise from law enforcement groups and disappointment from proponents of legalization."



You were saying?




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seekerof



posted on Dec, 23 2003 @ 06:13 PM
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Doh! The government is introducing this legislation, it is expected to pass. It gives the kids a break, but deal a blow to the growers/dealers.

The law is the law, and won't be changed until the govt decides to do so, which is sometime next year.



posted on Dec, 23 2003 @ 06:15 PM
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I don't do drugs but I still agree that sending a kid in jails for pot is pretty useless.... It's a waisting of ressources and the kid only learn to do worst things in jail.

[Edited on 23-12-2003 by Salem]



posted on Dec, 23 2003 @ 10:41 PM
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Some helpful quotes on the subject by some of our finest:


"The greatest service that can be rendered to any country is to add a useful plant to its culture." -Thomas Jefferson

"If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson

"An acre of the best ground for hemp, is to be selected and sewn in hemp and be kept for a permanent hemp patch." - Thomas Jefferson's Garden book 1849

"The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this." -Albert Einstein, My First Impression of the U.S.A., 1921


"[There is] a duty in refusing to cooperate in any undertaking that violates the Constitutional rights of the individual. This holds in particular for all inquisitions that are concerned with the private life and the political affiliations of the citizens." - Albert Einstein

Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves, and, under a just God cannot long retain it. - Abraham Lincoln

"Make the most of the Indian hemp seed, and sow it everywhere!" -George Washington, The Writings of George Washington Volume 33, page 270 (Library of Congress), 1794

"Congress should definitely consider decriminalizing possession of marijuana... We should concentrate on prosecuting the rapists and burglars who are a menace to society."-Dan Quayle, U.S. Representative and Vice president under President Bush, March 1977 (!?!)

"Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself; and where they are, they should be changed. Nowhere is this more clear than in the laws against possession of marihuana in private for personal use...Therefore, I support legislation amending Federal law to eliminate all Federal criminal penalties for the possession of up to one ounce [28g] of marihuana." -Jimmy Carter, U.S. President, Message to congress, 1977

"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -Ronald Reagan, U.S. President

"In strict medical terms marijuana is far safer than many foods we commonly consume. It is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death. Marijuana, in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man." -Francis L. Young, Administrative Law Judge of the US drug police DEA, September 6, 1988

"[In] my era everybody smoked and everybody drank and there was no drug use" - Current DEA Chief Thomas Constantine

"In any civilized society, it is every citizen's responsibility to obey just laws. But at the same time, it is every citizen's responsibility to disobey unjust laws." - Martin Luther King Jr.

"When they took the 4th Amendment, I was quiet because I didn't deal drugs. When they took the 5th Amendment, I was quiet because I wasn't a criminal. When they took the 2nd Amendment, I was quiet because I didn't own a gun. Now they've taken the 1st Amendment, and I can say nothing about it." - author unknown

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair, The Jungle


There is no friend anywhere - Lao Tse




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