UFO Police FLIR footage

Originally posted by zorgon

I want to know where these "plasma gases" come from...

I always wondered why the Shuttle would leave a plasma trail as it landed...

That would be because they're ripping through the thin upper atmosphere at an ungodly rate as they reenter. The air is compressed in front of the shuttle, and the compression causes heating. Enough heat and off pops an electron, voila, plasma.

It happens on every reentry.

Not the kind of Plasma I am looking for...

Originally posted by Jimbowsk
Great clip!

My first thought was perhaps a meteor breaking up in the atmosphere, but I seriously doubt that after watching the whole clip!

Its almost certainly a meteorite within the earths atmosphere.

I certainly saw nothing in the clip to get excited about - its 99% identical to other meteorite footage Ive seen.

The bits falling away are molten bits of the rock itself falling off.

Originally posted by R3KR
meteor with infrared ?

Its travelling through the atmosphere at a high mach number, its going to be very hot.

Originally posted by kleverone

Just wondering how you are gonna make it take off at the end like that?

It doesnt 'take off' or accelerate or anything else - all you are seeing is an optical illusion that happens when an object suddenly passes by a point of reference. Up until the final moments, there are no points of reference for you to make any judgement as to the speed of the object. It passes through some clouds or infront of some landscape or something (not quite sure, but I think its mountains) and suddenly you have an idea of its speed.


Also, something not mentioned in this thread yet is the fact that this observation happened just after the peak of the Ursid meteor shower, which happened on the 22nd December 2004.

www.calacademy.org...

Originally posted by wildone106

You did'nt see the fast moving point of light streeking past the clouds? Watch it again.

Its an optical illusion, it doesnt suddenly speed up or anything.

In case you did'nt know, he's not tracking it manually, its done by either radar or some laser that keeps the camera locked onto the target..

Its being tracked manually, an automatic system would not be as shaky as that.

Originally posted by Tom Bedlam

Originally posted by zorgonhowever any really good electromagnetic field COULD bend light around an object ...

Electromagnetic fields do not bend light.

At quantum level, its theorised that light can be bent by an EM field, but not on the macro scale.

All in all, Ive seen better UFO videos.
EM fields can however affect the wavelength of a light wave.

Originally posted by RichardPrice
At quantum level, its theorised that light can be bent by an EM field, but not on the macro scale.

EM fields can however affect the wavelength of a light wave.

Meh - we're wandering far afield from Zorgon's comment that "any good EM field will deflect light".

Yes - the stress-energy tensor of an EM field will result in gravitational acceleration between anti-parallel streams of photons, but the effect is so small that it can't yet be measured directly.

Zorgon has claimed more than once that any garden variety EM field can be made to bend photons around objects, and uses the example he gave of road mirages as being examples of photons being bent directly by IR radiation from the road, radiator or whatnot.

Thats just a hot air ballon, it caught a giant gust of wind, and flew away realy fast. It later landed and everyone laughed.

DEBUNKED.