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Originally posted by stumason
Simply put, I strongly (and I cannot emphasize this enough) doubt this story to the core. It's utter madness and BS...
Originally posted by solidshot
Originally posted by stumason
Simply put, I strongly (and I cannot emphasize this enough) doubt this story to the core. It's utter madness and BS...
And that makes it different from new labours recent military decisions how? And last night sky news was reporting that Invincible the aircraft carrier was already suposedly being stripped and being readied for sale
posted by Westpoint23
Stu, lets not buy into the hype, with only 48 surface to air missiles and one helicopter that statement is very bold indeed.
posted by Westpoint23
Anyway, can one Type 45 be at three places at the same time? Think about world commitments and ongoing operations. With six destroyers how many are going to be ready for deployment at any given time? Five at best? If a major conflict breaks out on distant shores you would have to commit your entire destroyer force and abandon other duties and commitment you may have. Think about defending shipping lanes, supporting on going coalition operation, defending UK waters, and fighting a distant war like the Falklands at the same time. Now you see why number play a key role, it good to have quality as well as reasonable quantity. Six destroyers is not enough for a country like GB unless you are ready to reduce your influence.
posted by Westpoint23
The same goes for the carriers, how many will be available for operation at any given time?
posted by Westpoint23
Frigate numbers will go down as the Type 22 class will be decommission in the coming years, not to mention the older Type 23 boats.
posted by Westpoint23
The UK is not building enough new units to make up for the ships which will be decommissioned, therefore current numbers cannot be sustained, the overall size will be reduced. And that's without any cuts mind you, should this report prove true the situation becomes even more dire.
Originally posted by chron
May Hms Invinceble sail the seas forever. for we have already lost the mighty saretoga.
Originally posted by stumason
This would be suicide, even for the (typically Scottish) penny-pinching, tight-arsed Brown.
Originally posted by devilwasp
Originally posted by stumason
This would be suicide, even for the (typically Scottish) penny-pinching, tight-arsed Brown.
Typically scottish? Ah yet again the ignorance of the english people is shown
Originally posted by stumason
C'mon, DW, everyone knows the Scots are tighter than a Duck's arse!
Originally posted by devilwasp
Originally posted by stumason
C'mon, DW, everyone knows the Scots are tighter than a Duck's arse!
Yeah right, ever tried getting a fiver out of an englishmans hands? Like trying to part the red sea!
Originally posted by stumason
Blame that on the King of Taxation, Mr Brown, as boring and as tight arsed Scotsman there ever was!
Besides, I am Cornish, not English....
Originally posted by devilwasp
Bloody awkward git!
Just wait, you'll get nuked first by the ruskies if it goes hot because your still at war with them!
Originally posted by stumason
I think your confused with a small town on the Scottish/English border
Cornwall was absorbed by England (without an Act of Union or Annexation, I might add!!!!!) sometime in the 15-1600's...
Originally posted by devilwasp
Now not only will we not have a navy but we wont have any above LT commander to man it!
I can see there being a large influx of 2 and 2 and a half ringers in the upcoming years if this paper is true.
Originally posted by stumason
That is probably taken slightly out of context. The aim of the freeze is to ensure what the Navy doesn't get too top heavy with Brass. No point having dozens of Commodores and Admirals if there are no Junior Officers or ratings to command, is there?
Originally posted by stumason
Not really. The Type-42 has only a twin Sea dart launcher on board, plus a collection of guns of various calibres, plus Phalanx CIWS.
With only 4 Type-42's in service, that makes a total increase in SAM launchers of 280, if you take it as 6 Type-45's and not 8.
Originally posted by stumason
As you can see, the Type-45's not only massively increase AA cover for the Fleet, but there will be a Type-42/Type-45 replacement ratio of 2:1.