girls... what do GIRLS want

Originally posted by jensouth31
I shouldn’t have revealed so much

You better watch it Zedd, I’ll turn into putty in your hand

Proof positive gents! She cooks and I showed appreciation. Write that down.


And Jen, that would be putty in my "hands", because using two hands to mold putty is something that should be done with care and attention to detail. Now about that cooking....

Okay Zedd “hands” yes, two hands are better than one

Orangetom: What is that fascination with shoes? I can’t give you an exact answer, but I am a shoe whore.

I think I have sexy feet…and a pair of sexy shoes, on freshly manicured feet…how could a girl resist? I think I have near 50 pairs. My daughter think I have impeccable taste when it comes to shoes! I agree with her It's really a shame that we wear the same size shoe and she's constantly stealing my shoes!

zed man it makes so much sense about the shoes...my brain still cant get why theyr so obsesed with shoes though...
all those advices are great and true but it depens if ur dating a real girl or some teenage fake that changes boyfriends every week^^

I'm not sure if this topic has been covered yet....but the issue of girls taking forever to get ready after saying they won't. I know if I tell my lady we need to be somewhere for 9:00AM, she starts getting ready at about 8:20 because she says it won't take her long.... It does. We end up late. Not just my current lady....any female I have ever encountered has done this. Including my own mother!

A trick I have learned about this and would like to share.........Tell them you have to be there a half an hour before you actually do. I used to do this to my mother and works well with my current lady. That way when they run over schedule....you aren't late!!!

Originally posted by Unisol
zed man it makes so much sense about the shoes...my brain still cant get why theyr so obsesed with shoes though...

Because women dress up and match their shoes to their handbags and other accessories. They don't totally do it for men though because most men don't notice. When asked the magic question of "how do I look?" men usually say something like "you look okay" in response. Hint: Not what she's looking for.

Women actually dress more for other women, because women notice. Ever been on a date where the woman will say "would you look at her dress?" or something similar? Women notice what other women wear.

If a man would notice a bit more, then it's an edge. If a man can dress well, even better. I don't mean anything overboard or anything. Just some small things.

For example:
- match your shoes and belt (no brown belts and black shoes)
- don't wear denim jeans and a denim shirt together (wear different color pants...unless you're a cowboy)
- never wear a pattern shirt with pattern pants (like a stripe shirt with cords)
- if your drawer has only white socks, go shopping and get blacks and browns to match your shoes
- most guys forget the jacket should also match the shoes/belt (wearing all brown stuff and then a black jacket is dumb)
- when dressing up, for god sakes NEVER wear a belt and suspenders (it's one OR the other)

Lord! I could go on, but these are simple things...not fancy stuff and it will still have you looking like a man...but with some style.

I was just lucky to have a mom that taught me well. Oh yeah, and for god sakes...learn to clean a toilet! Ask a woman if you need to learn, but taking a lady to your pad and having a messy toilet just speaks to women.

It says "ewwwww, I definately don't want to see him naked!"

u know they are boys too that take long to "get ready" hahaha
yea girls usualy spend much time but there are girls that still get on time
the REALLY FUNNY STUFF is when she tells "i wont put make up" and comes like christina agilera
dont u love girls that look beautifull without need of make up?

[edit on 6/4/07 by Unisol]

Womens shoes never intrested me to the extent they find such fascination with them. I am sure this is why I am having difficulty with this concept and cannot seem to satisfactorily grasp beyond a certain point.

Actually Jensouth ,I prefer my woman barefoot. Oh..I dont mean this in a bad connotation so often assumed by the bulk of folks today. It is just that when my woman comes over I like her to relax by rubbing her bare feet. As an apartment manager her feet take a daily beating so to speak. Move ins, Move outs, Inspections, Meetings etc etc etc. I find great pleasure and satisfaction in creating even an enviornment where she can relax and unwind. After some dinner and a foot rub it does not take her long to fall asleep and I dont mind. I watch over her while cleaning up and go to fix some coffee or dessert.

Mind you now ..this is not exactly with the most noble of reasons in mind. When I rub her feet and she falls asleep..I can easily watch TV and channel surf continuously which would normally drive her crazy. Not much of substance on most channels and I dislike most of the commercial appeal so I constantly surf. She doesnt care as long as I keep rubbing those tired feet. So there is a modus operandi here.

As to women dressing for other women..I agree with Zedd. Women spot this very quickly in other women. I have posted this before on another thread.
AT a company Christmas party, to which I was invited by a woman, I tired of the happenings in the ball room and retired to a sofa in the lobby. From this vantage point I was able to observe wildlife in its natural habitat.
I quickly realized the women in the lobby were closely scrutinizing and watching the other women arriving ..not the men per se..but the other women. This was a very revealing moment in life..unguarded ...open..not concealed. I was a bit shocked at the looks on some of the womens faces and what I was seeing. It was literally wildlife...unguarded. These are kodak moments frozen/etched in my mind for the very feralness of the nature being observed. I also realized that this implied some kind of a social pecking order among the women. Status. I have heard so few men ever comment on such a phenomonon that I came to realize that this is not necessarily for the eyes of men..but women only. I can only assume the natural dumbness of most men allows this to operate below the radar resolution of most males.
That Zedd understands this means his radar is frequency agile.

Also Zedd's basic outline for male dressing is correct. A male who can dress himself with some kind of thinking rationale is an indicator to a woman of his "potential." The "P" Word!! He has it together in dress so he may have it together in other areas crucial to them.

I am ok with this and can dress up or down when necessary. I just dont have much use for a woman who treats me as if I am here to be a key ingredient to her ensemble and that this is my major role in life. Not happening. Ive known to many with variations of this and what it implys.

Ahhhhh!! It just dawned on me!!! 'Could it be that the fascination with shoes in female socialization here in the west is that one of the key ingredients in putting together a matching wardrobe ensemble is shoes?? I dont know why I have never considered this until now. I suppose my radar needs a bit more fine tuning!! The word "Ensemble" seemed to trigger this line of thought.
Comments on this would be appreciated.

Conversely I Like a woman who can dress up or down as needed. I am not intrested in a porcelin statue to take down off the shelf, clean/dust, and rub my hands all over it before putting it back on the shelf. These are a dime a dozen.

I suppose I am getting a bit off topic here but let me close by saying that within certain bounds I dont worry about what a woman or girl wants. Thats just me. I'm just not intrested in but so much "trying out."

Thanks,
Orangetom

ok guiz....if its there ONe girl to ask my question....
"why when a girl sees some boy on the bus or on the street she always start to fix her hair,WHY!?"i see every girl do this...

Originally posted by orangetom1999
Ahhhhh!! It just dawned on me!!! 'Could it be that the fascination with shoes in female socialization here in the west is that one of the key ingredients in putting together a matching wardrobe ensemble is shoes?? I dont know why I have never considered this until now. I suppose my radar needs a bit more fine tuning!! The word "Ensemble" seemed to trigger this line of thought.
Comments on this would be appreciated.

How many times have you heard that a certain handbag or shoes just won't work? Or even the dreaded "I don't have a thing to wear."

It IS the ensemble, but also oh-so much more.

Okay, we'll look at going out to a planned event because it's the easiest to illustrate. First you've got outfit selection. This takes in factors like height, weight, body condition, etc, etc.

Then you have make-up selection, which is not random. Heck no! Shades and colors are selected that work WITH the outfit and or the color of the accessories (next step).

Some accessories come in the form of jewelry which will match. Yellow metals with yellow metals, silver metals with silver metals, pearls with pearls, etc. Diamonds can work with anything depending on the setting colors.

The next accessories are the sheos, belt, handbag. They all have to match or work well overall. Sometimes it might be all black but other times it's a black coat with leapord print shoes and bag. The point here is that women DO have a matching plan. Maybe matching is not the right term. It could even be different colors that still work together.

Then there is the coat, nylons, underwear (if there is a small chance it might be seen, then it won't be the "comfy" undies - women know what I mean. LOL!), and how could I forget...the hair. Certain outfits work with up-hairstyles, certain ones with down hairstyles.

*whew*

We could probably make an entire thread alone on this kind of advances calculus/geometry style factoring that goes into the female art form of dressing.


Make no mistake. Even if you meet her in jeans and a t-shirt, there was much brainpower spent on that outfit and how it factors with the rest of the total package.

Men on the other hand? Pants, socks (possibly white), underwear (clean? who knows), shoes, belt (long as it functional, style matters not), shirt (what's an iron?), and a quick run-through the hair.

Then you're saying "What's taking you so long? We've got to go!"

Yes I agree ..it is the ensemble but also much more as the whole seems to have to do with that status/pecking order....below the radar levels of most men..down in the weeds so to speak. Man...how about those LA Lakers??!!

I know some time past I bought this woman a jewelry box...you know the type with the mirror on it ..stands upright. More like a jewelry rack. She didnt have enough to fill it up at the time. Guess what olde man...she does now!! I will not however make accomodations for shoes...not happening!!!

Myself am mostly a jeans and tennis or work shoe type when hanging around the house and doing odds and ends. Yup I like white socks for this.
ON the occasions when I go out I will dress up but seldom formally. I am just not naturally that formal.

I am just not that intrested in being a accessory to a womans wardrobe ensemble...and her trying to change me to be so. Neither will I do this to women. I appreciate a woman who knows how to dress but it is not my core requirement of a woman.
This type of social adaptation/compromise I dont find worthy of my time.
A woman needs to offer me much more than this because my time is worth it. Thats just the way I am.

Thanks for your viewpoint and the humor,

Orangetom

there hase to be more guis like that....couse thats all true.....still talking about compromises if shes nice and makes compromises for you then maybe u can repay just a little...its human....
if u say honey do ur hair green couse i love girls with green hair(:

Wow. There really are a few people here who seem to understand the basics in attracting a woman. You know who you are. Those qualities are good and well, but will they work with attracting very hot, very intelligent women? The advice given is very good when in the relationship, and only in the beginning when you start dating. But what if you really don't want just one relationship, but several relationships? Or what if you just want a casual partner? To understand this, you must understand the primitive side of a woman. You have to understand that dating, at least the way I see it, is a battlefield where the weak, are stepped on, used and abused. Simply thrown away in the trash without ever looking back. Here is the key. All women in the world, no matter where you are, are always looking for something better to come along. Really, all women are looking for is a man who is a sexual threat. Do you guys follow me? Women know this. Isn't this right. Girls?


[edit on 6-4-2007 by souls]