posted on Jan, 17 2007 @ 02:20 AM
What, like cell phone towers?
PCLS doesn't work without power. Power for a centralized transmission to each civillian= exterrnally reliant emitter. Power which, like the towers
themselves, has to be fixed to geographic locations for purposes of both adequate distribution coverage and zoned city planning. Find the power, kill
the power, and civillian PCLS dies like any other emitter driven system.
Anything left over is a legitimate military target and should be treated as such.
The fact of the matter is that the way you beat the idiots in their sky buggies is by acoustics and EO systems sized similarly to those of range
Everyone knows it. Everyone denies it. But the fact remains true that if you can see truck sized ground targets with a 6" detector array some 20nm
downrange from a Sniper or similar Gen-3 targeting pod, you can jolly well see -at least the same distance- with a 20" optical bore looking for a
tennis court sized object against a clear blue sky. Such basic optical technology being available to ANYONE whereas super smart bistatic and PCL RF
technology is not.
Similarly, though they actively deny it (ever since it was discovered that Edwards has a major installation) acoustic tracking works quite well.
Indeed, the USAF has shut down wind farms because they didn't want to have their precious acoustic tracking system screwed up 'one hillock over' in
the Nellis ranges.
Once you get beyond this believe-the-propoganda nonsense, killing airpower as a political exercise in diplomatic adventurism will become an everyday
thing and we will have to win wars by accepting real losses of soldiers again. Rather than merely play them like war porn on a VCR.
In the Gulf War F-117's had first generation PGM's (laser guided only), as such I believe they had to be quite close to the target for their LGB's
to work properly. How threatening would AAA be against a target flying at 20-40K?
Gee, whodda thunk it? I mean you have a GBU-10I which falls more or less _straight down_ on a parabola so short that the aircraft can do an laydown
attack and still kill the target with less than 30`-from-vertical lookback on the overflight. And the GBU-27 which is essentially a GBU-10 tail kit
with a GBU-24 front end for 'sideways instead of vertical' trajectory shaping on more or less the same parabola.
The entire F-117 effort reflects the moronic 'boys want to be heroes!' bull# of Luke Skywalker's run down the trench. Senior Trend was a waste of
money and resources when it was built because NATO weather doesn't support the attack method sufficient to justify the allocation of support
Particularly when a GBU-32 from a supersonic F-22 will fly out 25nm.
And a GBU-39 will do 80+.
Including HARP, there is not a flak piece in the world that can defend a terminal target on that long a slant and by the time you go 'all Ruhrish on
their behinds' the cost of railroad cars worth of AAA exceeds that of the SAM based defensive alternative.
Anything that is shot at you (or near you) is threatening. While your level of comfort increases the more it happens, you never really get into a
position where the sight of tracers or air bursts doesn't bother you. In the same way that each critical spike that shows up on your RWRs causes the
heart to pound a tad quicker, even if you know you are well outside Rmax for the system.
Blah blah blah. You're /such/ a brave hewoe. Why -yes- -you- -are-.
An F-15E _subsonically_ releases a 250lb glide bomb 57nm from target and you honestly expect to sell that BS to anyone, anywhere? Mind you it's not
like the USAF 'didn't know'. What with the PWW being rejected in favor of the CWW (as GBU-15) DAMN NEAR THIRTY YEARS AGO!
_Please_ QUIT. The entire pack of you. So that we can employ robots that are cheaper and better and certainly less puckered up than your stalwart
souls ever dreamed of being.
However, in terms of pure numbers, the higher calibre AAA systems (80mm+) certainly have an ability to effectively target an aircraft from up to 30k
feet, with the largest (like the KS-19) being able to effectively target above 40k feet. And these figures are effective altitudes. The round actually
travels much higher than this. And if you throw enough lead into the air, and the threat aircraft has to fly through it, then it can be very
effective. AAA still accounts for somewhere in the vicinity of 65-70% of all aircraft combat losses if I recall correctly.
Given the world has followed once more the U.S. 'lead' in NOT pursuing guided gun rounds as demonstrated in the ATG program down to about 40mm, this
is entirely a bogus claim because to get killed by trashfire you have to /go where it lives/ and that can only happen by deliberate choice of poor
sensorization and stupid delivery profile selection.
OTOH, undoubtedly some manned airpower uber alles idiot realized that the ballistic dispersion on even a lucky direct-flyover engagement is such that
no high caliber round, even perfectly laid for static PK, will impact, there being just too damn many post-muzzle variables on a trans/supersonic
delivery vehicle upwards of 40-50,000ft overhead.
Until you add guidance.
Then it becomes the worlds cheapest SAM in a shell case so damn huge 'even a Russian' could stuff the requisite electronics and propulsion
In any case, again, 'everyone knows' that the fraud of manned airpower is sustained by not engineering the RIGHT countermeasure which is simply a
target drone level technology that can FLY UP to co-altitude and SIT THERE 'preproximal or hunting' before making multiple passes on a target that
cannot runaway fast enough (thanks to our procurement stupidity of subsonic ingress platforms) and indeed _will not_ 'see the tracer' until the
paint-it-a-thunderbird weapon does a formation kill right next to the canopy.
Lord knows, you'd think someone on this planet would combine literacy with independent-of-U.S.-dogma cogent thought process sufficiently acute to
UNDERSTAND what it means when 1991 Iraqi pilots can be induced to make multiple passes on ADM-141 /gliders/ and 'never see nothin' of a 10", 6ft,
grey shape as the F-15s come in like sharks for the glory kill.
Moronicism as innocence is pathetic. Indulging stupidity for a profit is purely and criminally exploitative. Something that our coming defeat in
Iraq will prove beyond a doubt as being the 'studied indifference' betrayal by our armed forces of their sacred duty to defend this nation and it's
Maybe then we can get someone who can do the job at only half the level of corruption.